MODERATED General Politics Thread II

commiecorvus

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Ok. This will get me in trouble but who in their right mind would have gender altering treatments performed on their pre pubescent child ? Old school question.

Jazz is not pre-pubescent.
She is 18 which is the legal age to transition with parental permission.
And apparently she is worth a half million dollars.
 

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Jazz is not pre-pubescent.
She is 18 which is the legal age to transition with parental permission.
Ok didn’t know that. I should have done more research but I’m so far out in the sticks that internet is so so. But still a troubling trend. And I’m so far out in the sticks that the trans issue is puzzling to me. I def don’t approve of born boys transitioning to girls then competing in sports as female. And parents still gave permission. ^ Sloppy edit but. Edit- and vice versa. The boy as girl came to mind first.
 
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Ok didn’t know that. I should have done more research but I’m so far out in the sticks that internet is so so. But still a troubling trend. And I’m so far out in the sticks that the trans issue is puzzling to me. I def don’t approve of born boys transitioning to girls then competing in sports as female. And parents still gave permission. ^ Sloppy edit but.
What about W2M being forced to compete as women?
They win all the time and people bitch that it's because they are on hormones.
If they are allowed to compete as men then it would be fair.

For example, this is Shawn Stinson, a competitive body builder.



I don't think he should be competing in the women's sports.
 

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logs back in after napping and puking

Ah...welp, drunkposting is always fun! Good thing I'm a happy/friendly drunk, eh fellas?

@commiecorvus - to answer your question, yes I do know one F2M kid in real life (I say 'kid' but they're like 20 something, works at Target) and although them coming into work with a progressively lower voice every week took some getting used to, I don't feel threatened or creeped out by this person at all. Although, I will say that as a gay male with the ol' XY in me, I'm not fooled in the slightest, because there are these little physical subtleties that give it away - shape of the jaw and upper torso, plus the way he walks is unmistakably female. This to me confirms that it's a larp, and the TERF claim that womanhood can't be reduced to a couple of hormones makes total sense in that context.

It's just disappointing to me that all these libs who are otherwise an order of magnitude more intelligent than I am can't seem to understand that you can be against something for reasons other than burning hatred. That's never a healthy mindset and stewing in my own bitterness just ain't my idea of a good time.
 

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"O’Rourke would enter the race as a man without a clear political ideology, a signature legislative achievement, a major policy issue, or a concrete agenda for the country. Those in the know tell the Atlantic that Beto is planning to run as a candidate “offering hope that America can be better than its current partisan and hate-filled politics, and that the country can come together,” but that—brace yourself—he hasn’t yet “landed on how he’ll propose to actually make that happen.”
That’s more of the same empty words Beto’s been offering in public since his loss to Cruz. “I don’t know where I am on a [political] spectrum, and I almost could care less,” he said at a recent stop in Wisconsin. “I just want to get to better things for this country.”"
Yeah, no.
I'm pretty sure he is actually running for vice-president but that kind of shit leaves me cold.
 
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Why do people feel the need to bring up politics at work, on the salesfloor, with the store open? Here I am setting an aisle in seasonal while the pmt is building a grill. With no prodding, he says that he can't stand such and such politician and on and on. Says he hates politician. I'm flabbergasted. He doesn't know my politics or any of the people shopping. I've also heard it brought up in the breakroom, loudly. He's brought it up twice on the salesfloor. The next time, I'm telling him I don't want to hear it. My personal feeling is that it's classless to being up politics in a nonpolitical setting.
 

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We have a kid who works mostly evening shifts, and back when he first started was mentioning the God-Emperor a lot while working and said he's going to vote for him again in 2020 to own the libs. I told him I'm not bothered by this kind of political talk but that he should watch what he says because a lot of other TMs wouldn't like it one bit and possibly talk to HR about it. I expected him to snort and say something about triggering the libs, but thankfully he got scared and started clamming up while we were in mixed company. Lol
 

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Why do people feel the need to bring up politics at work, on the salesfloor, with the store open? Here I am setting an aisle in seasonal while the pmt is building a grill. With no prodding, he says that he can't stand such and such politician and on and on. Says he hates politician. I'm flabbergasted. He doesn't know my politics or any of the people shopping. I've also heard it brought up in the breakroom, loudly. He's brought it up twice on the salesfloor. The next time, I'm telling him I don't want to hear it. My personal feeling is that it's classless to being up politics in a nonpolitical setting.
Political discussion can be healthy, after all, it is one of the few things that actually affects everybody in one way or another, but mindless blabbering about it out of no where is weird lol. I often find the people who are most often upset when politics are brought up are the ones who have close to zero understanding of it, and the ones who mindlessly bring it up don't understand that other people exist and have an over-inflated sense of understanding of it.

If politics only happened in a political office or climate then I think a lot of people would be dumb to it. Political talk is healthy, not always productive, but in my perspective hearing what others think about the current political situation, whatever it may be, is valuable. It helps form ideals, morals, and helps you identify with what you find "ethical".

But, I agree, no-context political jabbering is just weird.
 
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Political discussion can be healthy, after all, it is one of the few things that actually affects everybody in one way or another, but mindless blabbering about it out of no where is weird lol. I often find the people who are most often upset when politics are brought up are the ones who have close to zero understanding of it, and the ones who mindlessly bring it up don't understand that other people exist and have an over-inflated sense of understanding of it.

If politics only happened in a political office or climate then I think a lot of people would be dumb to it. Political talk is healthy, not always productive, but in my perspective hearing what others think about the current political situation, whatever it may be, is valuable. It helps form ideals, morals, and helps you identify with what you find "ethical".

But, I agree, no-context political jabbering is just weird.
It isnt so much that it's brought up. But it's what he says. If he does it again on the salesfloor, I'll remind myself to remember what he says.
 
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And yet she adopted him, loves him, and cares for him.
I'm fine with political debate except on gay issues as there is no debate to be had IMO. Support LGBT rights or fuck off.
But don't you think there are people who as passionate about other ideas as you are about LGBT rights? So maybe they think there is no debate about their issue, although you think it IS debatable.
 

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And yet she adopted him, loves him, and cares for him.
I didn't think she wasn't going to adopt him. What's your point?

But don't you think there are people who as passionate about other ideas as you are about LGBT rights? So maybe they think there is no debate about their issue, although you think it IS debatable.
I fail to see your point.
 

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I'm fine with political debate except on gay issues as there is no debate to be had IMO. Support LGBT rights or fuck off.
I dunno, I kinda want Mike "Amperes for Sinful Queers" Pence to take office so we can see him unveil his 10 million volt violet wand in the shape of a cross...tell me that wouldn't make for some historic comedy
 
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