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I swear, I still remember people saying “But look what Bush left him with!” In 2012/2013.
To be fair, the economy (mostly) tends to be like a freight train; long time to start, long time to stop. The economic policies of an administration sometimes takes years after implementation to be able to accurately gauge the effects. It's why I almost want Trump to win a second term. If his economic policies crater, most of the effects will become noticeable 2021 and onwards. People tend to blame the sitting president even if he had literally nothing to do with it.

No one believed that the financial crisis & general economy was Obama’s fault. At least, not where I was.
I saw people bitching within 6 months of his inauguration that the economy wasn't improving. These are the same people that looked at the unemployment rate continuing to fall in March 2017 and screaming "YEAH TRUMP!" When I pointed out that the unemployment rate had been falling for years, they claimed those numbers were fake.

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Here's a quick example from an old post I made in the last thread:


That was in March 2017. This girl seriously thought that her birth control becoming free was due to Trump. Never mind the fact that he had been in office for 2 months, never mind the fact that he had done absolutely nothing regarding health care, never mind the fact that her insurance enrollment probably happened prior to Trump taking office and her plan was finalized.
 
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I saw people bitching within 6 months of his inauguration that the economy wasn't improving. These are the same people that looked at the unemployment rate continuing to fall in March 2017 and screaming "YEAH TRUMP!" When I pointed out that the unemployment rate had been falling for years, they claimed those numbers were fake.
I was living in the Suburbs of Denver Colorado at the time of Obama's First Inauguration, by way of FL, and was living in California the year before he left office. I swear on my life, I never once heard anyone blame Obama for the economy, or our high gas prices at the time. It wasn't until after his reelection, that I would occasionally hear people make comments, about how long it's been, and that things were not improving. Realistically, things didn't start to get better in CO until maybe very late 2012/2013 or so, locally.

I hope you won't take this personally, but, I personally *feel* reading your posts, that I have somehow managed to isolate myself, into a very intelligent/well educated group of people, because -- a lot of incidents you talk about, I never witness, or hear about. I could only think of *one* person on the top of my head, that would make a post like the one below.

And to drive home one last point. When I was living in Colorado, it wasn't like I was some society person. Most of my friends, and so forth, were traditional, middle class people. Many of which, didn't finish college, or just had a HS Degree. I just never hear things, like, you mention.

I *mean* perhaps, yes, a select few, or a commentator on Fox News would make a comment about "OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN PROMISED A BOOMING ECONOMY, WHERE IS IT?" - but, surely, most people don't believe in that.


That was in March 2017. This girl seriously thought that her birth control becoming free was due to Trump. Never mind the fact that he had been in office for 2 months, never mind the fact that he had done absolutely nothing regarding health care, never mind the fact that her insurance enrollment probably happened prior to Trump taking office and her plan was finalized.
 

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Aka "I'm mad / can't cope with the fact that this seat flipped so I'm gonna dig as much as I can to smear the person."
Maybe I'm wrong... but wasn't it the DailyMail (UK) that broke some of the story, and Initially released the photos?
 
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I hope you won't take this personally, but, I personally *feel* reading your posts, that I have somehow managed to isolate myself, into a very intelligent/well educated group of people, because -- a lot of incidents you talk about, I never witness, or hear about. I could only think of *one* person on the top of my head, that would make a post like the one below.
God I wish I could say I could only think of one person. I got called a sucker today by one of my in-laws for pointing out (yet again) an article is satire.
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Screw Voter ID, we need a fucking test to see if people are at least semi-informed before they cast a vote. Sharing articles like this without making it clear you're in on the joke should get you stricken from the registry.
 

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OMFG.
But don't feel bad I deal with people every day who believe even stupider thing and it takes everything I have not to say something.

I waiver between between being understanding because we really aren't meant to have this much information pounded into our brains every minute of every day.
Some folks can handle it better than others and there are people who are working hard to make things as hard to comprehend as possible.
For those of you who missed the conspiracy, Putin isn't trying to take over the US, he is just pouring so much shit into our information systems that we tear ourselves apart.
He's doing it to every Democratic country in the world.
The people really getting hurt by it are the people who can't filter.
All this shit gets poured in and they just can't work it out.
 
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ANDY BESHEAR (D) WINS KENTUCKY GOVERNOR.

DEMOCRATS PROJECTED TO WIN VIRGINIA HOUSE AND SENATE.

GOP has held the House majority since 1999. GOP has had Senate majority since 1998. (there's a lot of fiddle-fucking around with ties and the Lt. governor and a resignation) Either way, it's basically been 20 years of GOP controlled Assembly.
 

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Gotta love my city and it's "informed" citizens to death. What could be a better symbol of progressivism than electing a "former" criminal, and certified professional deadbeat into one of the most powerful positions in office?
 

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Gotta love my city and it's "informed" citizens to death. What could be a better symbol of progressivism than electing a "former" criminal, and certified professional deadbeat into one of the most powerful positions in office?
Who.
 

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Jumaane Williams

He's currently being sued by Bank of America, Bank of New York Mellon, and Chase, all for foreclosure. Than, there's a rental eviction, and his unpaid judgements for child support. Maybe the best part is he is still collecting rent on at least one of the properties, for which he hasn't made a mortgage payment on since 2010. Or... maybe, it's his assault towards a former girlfriend, or his other misdemeanor. He certainly sounds like a very straight forward, honest man! A perfect role model for the youngsters of his community! The real problem with people like him, is they believe they are untouchable and above the law. "Public Advocates" (which by the way, are successor if something happens to the mayor) should be the ones who hold themselves to a higher standard - and don't speed through school zones, or or consistently drive through red lights.

Lastly, our current Mayor DeMoron -- who the democratic party hated as a 2020 Nominee, started as a Public Advocate. I would hate to see this kind of person eventually promote to Mayor of the City. Not that it would surprise me though.
 

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Jumaane Williams

He's currently being sued by Bank of America, Bank of New York Mellon, and Chase, all for foreclosure. Than, there's a rental eviction, and his unpaid judgements for child support. Maybe the best part is he is still collecting rent on at least one of the properties, for which he hasn't made a mortgage payment on since 2010. Or... maybe, it's his assault towards a former girlfriend, or his other misdemeanor. He certainly sounds like a very straight forward, honest man! A perfect role model for the youngsters of his community! The real problem with people like him, is they believe they are untouchable and above the law. "Public Advocates" (which by the way, are successor if something happens to the mayor) should be the ones who hold themselves to a higher standard - and don't speed through school zones, or or consistently drive through red lights.

Lastly, our current Mayor DeMoron -- who the democratic party hated as a 2020 Nominee, started as a Public Advocate. I would hate to see this kind of person eventually promote to Mayor of the City. Not that it would surprise me though.
Ranked choice voting might help
 
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