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Not that it would even matter. Fact of the matter is, the same people who spend their whole days on Twitter and Facebook -- discussing there content, don't bother to show up the only time it really matters.

 

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Not that it would even matter. Fact of the matter is, the same people who spend their whole days on Twitter and Facebook -- discussing there content, don't bother to show up the only time it really matters.

And? Are you arguing against early voting?
 

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And? Are you arguing against early voting?
No. It certainly was a waste of tax dollars though, and... the personal time of the volunteer & paid poll workers. Point is - the people who supposedly "care" the most, are the same ones who don't bother to show up on election day.
 

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We started having mail in voting up here and the Republicans freaked out because the turnout jumped to almost double.
Oregon has good luck with it too.
 

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We’ve had that for years, nationwide. It’s called Absentee Ballot. Once again, most people don’t take advantage of it.
 

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Here comes DeMoron Part 2!

I’m honestly surprised London Breed hasn’t announced her run yet. ShitFrancisco has got to represent!
 

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I saw this article on the NYTimes website today. Asking “Can Trump avoid Taxes by leaving NY?”

And all I could think was... Do the journalists realize that he spends at least more than half his year in DC & FL, and NY doesn’t hold a legitimate claim to his residency? We are not talking about his business taxes, but personal. He doesn't live in New York, and doesn't spend 181 days out of the year here.

Of Course... If we didn't have articles like this, I'm not sure how the NY Times would survive without the advertising revenue from these hard-hitting pieces!
 
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I saw this article on the NYTimes website today. Asking “Can Trump avoid Taxes by leaving NY?”

And all I could think was... Do the journalists realize that he spends at least more than half his year in DC & FL, and NY doesn’t hold a legitimate claim to his residency? We are not talking about his business taxes, but personal. He doesn't live in New York, and doesn't spend 181 days out of the year here.

Of Course... If we didn't have articles like this, I'm not sure how the NY Times would survive without the advertising revenue from these hard-hitting pieces!
I'd be genuinely curious on how that works. Active duty military that live on base are usually subject to the income taxes of the state they lived in when they enlisted. My cousin grew up in Louisiana and enlisted in the Marines. During his service, he was subject to LA state income taxes even though he was stationed in California, New York, Texas, and North Carolina and spent maybe a combined total of 3 months out of 8 years in Louisiana.

On a side note, most states will claim a business has nexus (similar to residency) just for having a serviceman perform 1 day of work within state lines and try to hit them up for taxes.
I had to file a return in Nebraska a couple of years ago because we had a guy there for less than a week.
 

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I'd be genuinely curious on how that works. Active duty military that live on base are usually subject to the income taxes of the state they lived in when they enlisted. My cousin grew up in Louisiana and enlisted in the Marines. During his service, he was subject to LA state income taxes even though he was stationed in California, New York, Texas, and North Carolina and spent maybe a combined total of 3 months out of 8 years in Louisiana.
The way I understood it was... you can claim dual-residency or single-residency, but you must "live" in the state you chose, at least 181 days of the year or more... and prepare to have phone records, and bank records in case you get audited. In your cousin's case, I wonder if he had the ability to claim residency wherever it was more advantageous, considering -- he was a resident of those other states (on paper and in reality).
 

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We have college students who claim residency in Alaska so they can get their PFD even though they are barely here at all.
They can't vote where they are and if they register there they lose their ability to get the PFD.
 

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Meanwhile, back here in New York. Who says, Crime doesn't pay? We now have a loyalty program for Criminals! Want tickets to the the Mets? Done! How about a $50 Gift Card to Mcdonald's or Dunkin Donuts? It's yours! Haha. Thank You DeMoron!

I'm honestly waiting to see the rewards structure for the FelonRewards+ they are talking about! I hear you get a $250 VISA Gift Card on that one. Jokes aside,, I just sometimes have to ask myself, what incentive is there to follow the law anymore? I can go do just about anything, *potentially* get caught, and than... be out on the streets, processed in less than a couple of hours and never have to worry about Bail! But... give it some more time, they say, the power that be know more than the average citizen, they allege.

Bail Reform: Mayor De Blasio Defends Giving Freed Prison Inmates Gifts For Appearing In Court As 'A Smart Policy' - https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/11/06/de-blasio-inmates-gifts-court/
 

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We have college students who claim residency in Alaska so they can get their PFD even though they are barely here at all.
They can't vote where they are and if they register there they lose their ability to get the PFD.
If they are claiming residency in Alaska, and as such, I don't see why they wouldn't be eligible to vote in Alaska through an Absentee Ballot or the regular way.
 

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Sorry, I wasn't clear.
They can vote by absentee.
They just can't vote locally.
My brother gave up his Alaskan residency just because he wanted to vote in local elections.
It says something when you give up that much money just so you can vote.
 

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Meanwhile, back here in New York. Who says, Crime doesn't pay? We now have a loyalty program for Criminals! Want tickets to the the Mets? Done! How about a $50 Gift Card to Mcdonald's or Dunkin Donuts? It's yours! Haha. Thank You DeMoron!

I'm honestly waiting to see the rewards structure for the FelonRewards+ they are talking about! I hear you get a $250 VISA Gift Card on that one. Jokes aside,, I just sometimes have to ask myself, what incentive is there to follow the law anymore? I can go do just about anything, *potentially* get caught, and than... be out on the streets, processed in less than a couple of hours and never have to worry about Bail! But... give it some more time, they say, the power that be know more than the average citizen, they allege.

Bail Reform: Mayor De Blasio Defends Giving Freed Prison Inmates Gifts For Appearing In Court As 'A Smart Policy' - https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/11/06/de-blasio-inmates-gifts-court/
Okay, y'know what? Quit whining.

There's overcrowding in prisons. Let's hear you come up with a response on how to solve it.
 

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But I don't think he really has to quit whining, because 1. Nobody whines more than a bleeding-heart liberal, and 2. This policy is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

JMHO, of course.
Quoted for Fucking Truth. I couldn't have said that better myself.

Okay, y'know what? Quit whining.

There's overcrowding in prisons. Let's hear you come up with a response on how to solve it.
Yeah... they are so concerned about overcrowding, and this is the answer! Meanwhile, they are closing Rikers Island, in some "attempt" to build, smaller, localized jails. Jails that still will not carry enough capacity, nor be opened in time before the shutdown of Rikers. Yeah, what a smart "plan" that is. And it is such a "smart move" of the taxpayer's dollars, or at least, those who actually do bother to pay taxes in this city. This has nothing to do with overcrowding, and everything to do with a disgustingly slimy attempt to win votes.

Reminds me, of the same people who have decided that the Indian Point Nuclear Power Center, 36 miles away from the city MUST BE SHUTTERED AT ALL COSTS! Meanwhile, it supplies 25% - 32% (depending on the day) of the city's electricity and they haven't formulated a viable replacement.
OH MY GAH, CUZ CHERNOBYL, AM I RIGHT!

The fact of the matter is, yeah, maybe we should eventually wind it down, but for now, it's performed safely and well since the 1960s, and it would cost a serious amount of money to the taxpayers of New York, AND the Residents of New York to pay for an alternative. For those of us, who don't get our power paid for by credits, or government assistance -- we have some of the most expensive electricity in the county, per Kilowatt. Mine is close to 17cents per KWH.

However, it doesn't matter to the decision-makers if my power bill goes to 25 Cents or 30 Cents per KWH, to replace the Nuclear Energy Site with Solar or Clean Wind Energy. It also doesn't matter to the people in charge, that long-time residents of California will remember rolling blackouts for the rest of their lives, and it caused a HUGE Shakeup in Politics. They don't care if the replacements do not provide enough electricity, or if there are unintentional consequences to their actions. Just like they don't care about how they themselves, created an unaffordable housing crisis.
 

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Quoted for Fucking Truth. I couldn't have said that better myself.



Yeah... they are so concerned about overcrowding, and this is the answer! Meanwhile, they are closing Rikers Island, in some "attempt" to build, smaller, localized jails. Jails that still will not carry enough capacity, nor be opened in time before the shutdown of Rikers. Yeah, what a smart "plan" that is. And it is such a "smart move" of the taxpayer's dollars, or at least, those who actually do bother to pay taxes in this city. This has nothing to do with overcrowding, and everything to do with a disgustingly slimy attempt to win votes.

Reminds me, of the same people who have decided that the Indian Point Nuclear Power Center, 36 miles away from the city MUST BE SHUTTERED AT ALL COSTS! Meanwhile, it supplies 25% - 32% (depending on the day) of the city's electricity and they haven't formulated a viable replacement.
OH MY GAH, CUZ CHERNOBYL, AM I RIGHT!

The fact of the matter is, yeah, maybe we should eventually wind it down, but for now, it's performed safely and well since the 1960s, and it would cost a serious amount of money to the taxpayers of New York, AND the Residents of New York to pay for an alternative. For those of us, who don't get our power paid for by credits, or government assistance -- we have some of the most expensive electricity in the county, per Kilowatt. Mine is close to 17cents per KWH.

However, it doesn't matter to the decision-makers if my power bill goes to 25 Cents or 30 Cents per KWH, to replace the Nuclear Energy Site with Solar or Clean Wind Energy. It also doesn't matter to the people in charge, that long-time residents of California will remember rolling blackouts for the rest of their lives, and it caused a HUGE Shakeup in Politics. They don't care if the replacements do not provide enough electricity, or if there are unintentional consequences to their actions. Just like they don't care about how they themselves, created an unaffordable housing crisis.
You seem like a crazy homeless man on the street, jumping from one topic to the next. Nuclear power has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand yet here you are complaining about California yet again.

You are not worth chatting politics with.
 

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You seem like a crazy homeless man on the street, jumping from one topic to the next. Nuclear power has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand yet here you are complaining about California yet again.

You are not worth chatting politics with.
Actually... the relevancy is the complete and total stupidity of these so called leaders you love so much, and their inability to make competent, rational decisions. There is a thing called unintentional consequences, and these virtue signaling, desperate acts that fleece & defraud the actual taxpayers are the reasons people like me are so vocal.

Secondly, I didn't complain about California. What I meant was... the rolling blackouts, caused by a energy shortage in California, contributed to a major surprise in the Governor race at the time. -- If our city goes dark, because of this power plant being shut down, I guarantee you, it will be more than just me raising hell.
 

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The rolling blackouts in California were not so much caused by the lack of generated power but by PG@E's preference for giving money to the stockholders instead of putting it back into infrastructure.
It's similar to the problem we had after Super-storm Sandy in NJ, a lot of the phone and electrical wiring was from the 1950's and would crumble as the the guys tried to repair it.
I remember as a kid one of the things that some how made us superior to Russia was how modern and up-to-date our infrastructure was compared to theirs.
Well we sure dropped that fucking ball.
 
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Reminds me, of the same people who have decided that the Indian Point Nuclear Power Center, 36 miles away from the city MUST BE SHUTTERED AT ALL COSTS! Meanwhile, it supplies 25% - 32% (depending on the day) of the city's electricity and they haven't formulated a viable replacement. OH MY GAH, CUZ CHERNOBYL, AM I RIGHT!
Honestly, the fact that we haven't embraced nuclear technology as an alternative to fossil fuels frustrates me to no end.
 

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Honestly, the fact that we haven't embraced nuclear technology as an alternative to fossil fuels frustrates me to no end.

I'd like to see that but I want to see the next generation of power plants.
They are working on ones now that can use the old rods as fuel and burn the rods more completely so we won't have waste that sits around for 10,000 years.
 
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