Archived Something Needs To Change Thread

[whotookmyopucart]

I gotta know there are other TMs out there who see how Targets are poorly run, projects poorly executed, and the treatment of the employees is just wrong. I know it's retail, but that doesn't matter - we need a certain level of respect. Some of the rules are completely ridiculous, like being locked in the building during the overnight remodel shift. It's "for safety"; yet why do I find spilled detergent at the top of cement steps by receiving, or black mold under the panels on the wall at TSC, or a complete loss of urgency and protocol when something catches fire and sets off the alarms? I know, it's liability... but it's just not okay. How about the lack of direct training with new tasks? The complete disinterest in keeping a maintained backroom? WHAT HAPPENED TO LOW AND PRODUCTIVE? My team has two others, besides me, who are ready to speak up and try to change this, whereas the rest are apathetic. I understand, but you shouldn't have to become numb to that kind of treatment. Anyone else feeling this too? What can I do beyond calling the hotline? My backroom used to be a proud place, tidy, organized... I do my best, but the LODs and regulations are pushing us around so much that we stop caring. Target... what are you doing?

 

[busyzoningtoys]

Being “locked in” isn’t uncommon in retail for overnight work. It’s not like the cleaning crew who are actually locked it; we have the LOD with keys and codes there with us. It’s perfectly legal for us to be expected to stay on the premesis during our paid 15s, and they’re supposed to unlock and disarm for lunch break. There’s no safety threat to being locked in, there’s plenty of emergency exits.

 

[YoNanas]

Those that smoke are locked in during overnite.

 

[whotookmyopucart]

Being “locked in” isn’t uncommon in retail for overnight work. It’s not like the cleaning crew who are actually locked it; we have the LOD with keys and codes there with us. It’s perfectly legal for us to be expected to stay on the premesis during our paid 15s, and they’re supposed to unlock and disarm for lunch break. There’s no safety threat to being locked in, there’s plenty of emergency exits.

Yeah I get that. It's illegal in New Jersey, for example, to be locked in a building, but not in my state. The legality isn't my point. Just because something is legal, it doesn't necessarily make it okay. I'm not okay with it and I know several others who aren't, so I like to look for solutions and compromises when I'm unhappy with something. What do you mean they're supposed to unlock and disarm during lunch break? That's all we want, really. If we are able to go to our cars or smoke while we are clocked out, that would alleviate a lot of the tension between my team and my lead.

 

[Hardlinesmaster]

Those issues you mentioned will fixed in the remodel. Soap spill clean it up. Being Locked in overnight is for your safety.

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[BoxCutter]

a complete loss of urgency and protocol when something catches fire and sets off the alarms?

Say what??? You had an actual active fire in your store? No one called CODE RED and evacuated the building? This is what I would be concerned with more than a backroom that was a shit house (the vast majority of the stores in the chain were in Q4). This would require a call to the Hotline.

Your PMT should address the mold issue, leadership should have been notified of the spill and a Leader should have cleaned it up, and for years training at Spot has always been less than desirable. First, try to respectfully work with you store leadership to fix these areas of concern before doing anything else. If you don't get results internally, then, maybe, call the Hotline about them.

And, technically, no one is locked in overnight. There should always be a key carrying Leader in the store when the store is closed and people are inside. Plus all stores have emergency exits. Even in New Jersey.

 

[unknown]

Say what??? You had an actual active fire in your store? No one called CODE RED and evacuated the building? This is what I would be concerned with more than a backroom that was a shit house (the vast majority of the stores in the chain were in Q4). This would require a call to the Hotline.

Your PMT should address the mold issue, leadership should have been notified of the spill and a Leader should have cleaned it up, and for years training at Spot has always been less than desirable. First, try to respectfully work with you store leadership to fix these areas of concern before doing anything else. If you don't get results internally, then, maybe, call the Hotline about them.

And, technically, no one is locked in overnight. There should always be a key carrying Leader in the store when the store is closed and people are inside. Plus all stores have emergency exits. Even in New Jersey.

You are wrong. Target sometimes has the cleaning crew in overnight to strip and wax. Oh, or they not people?

 

[MavDog]

You are wrong. Target sometimes has the cleaning crew in overnight to strip and wax. Oh, or they not people?

The cleaning crew isn't target hired people. They are contract workers who's company signed a contract that said "we are okay with you doing this"

 

[NKG]

Because I want a gun blazing idoit to just break in without anyone knowing it. Sorry Karen maybe next time you just load a cart of iPads and just sit in the parking lot for 8 hours to try not to get robbed.

 

[whotookmyopucart]

Because I want a gun blazing idoit to just break in without anyone knowing it. Sorry Karen maybe next time you just load a cart of iPads and just sit in the parking lot for 8 hours to try not to get robbed.

Yeah I get your point... Only one flaw there. We only have overnight during a remodel and the main entrance doors stay open. Not just unlocked, literally wide open. One of our crew sits at a little table with a sign in sheet for the construction workers. A three ring binder is essentially all that's between you and your hypothetical Target bandit.

I know you guys are probably used to half assed short term employees, but I don't need the lectures. There's a handful of us in my team who take our tasks seriously, and we work our butts off to improve our areas every shift. If you really don't see the issues as a big deal, then you're probably just too used to them, and that's not good. I'm betting the "clean it up" commenters are LODs haha.

 

[whotookmyopucart]

What about the communication flow at your stores? Maybe I'm just noticing a pattern that isn't as big as I thought.

 

[Planosss]

Yeah, buddy looks like you and the “few others” are the only ones with an issue with this non issue.

 

[unknown]

The cleaning crew isn't target hired people. They are contract workers who's company signed a contract that said "we are okay with you doing this"

Thanks for educating me. I had no idea the cleaning crew worked for a third party. Furthermore, did I say they were directly hired by Target? If you would reread the message I quoted, the poster stated "when people are inside." Not team members. I merely took the post as written.

 

[MavDog]

Thanks for educating me. I had no idea the cleaning crew worked for a third party. Furthermore, did I say they were directly hired by Target? If you would reread the message I quoted, the poster stated "when people are inside." Not team members. I merely took the post as written.

You said "Target sometimes has the cleaning crew overnight", implying that Target is having them do this. I merely took your post as written. Really though, the cleaning company tells target when they are going to do this. We don't really have a say in when these overnights happen for the cleaning crew

 

[unknown]

You said "Target sometimes has the cleaning crew overnight", implying that Target is having them do this. I merely took your post as written. Really though, the cleaning company tells target when they are going to do this. We don't really have a say in when these overnights happen for the cleaning crew

Yes, I'm sure the cleaning company tells the stl when they are going to strip and wax. No input from Target at all.

We are doing it the overnight Thanksgiving night. But the store is usually open that night. Yeah, but Mavdog said we tell Target when we are doing it.

So yeah, I'm practically certain Target management has a say in what nights they do that.

 

[NKG]

Yeah I get your point... Only one flaw there. We only have overnight during a remodel and the main entrance doors stay open. Not just unlocked, literally wide open. One of our crew sits at a little table with a sign in sheet for the construction workers. A three ring binder is essentially all that's between you and your hypothetical Target bandit.

I know you guys are probably used to half assed short term employees, but I don't need the lectures. There's a handful of us in my team who take our tasks seriously, and we work our butts off to improve our areas every shift. If you really don't see the issues as a big deal, then you're probably just too used to them, and that's not good. I'm betting the "clean it up" commenters are LODs haha.

So your mad about being locked in or not being locked in? I'm confused. I guess just "clean it up" lol

 

[Black Sheep 214]

Depending on the state, if the doors are locked during lunch break, Spot has to pay you for the time. Guess how fast those doors unlocked when Spot found that out?

 

[Aredhel]

A couple of tense overnight moments when a temp tm suffering from energy drink rage and astonishingly poor judgement even for a kid his age tried to punch a tl. He was escorted out but I’ve often thought stores should have designated muscle.

 

[Planosss]

A couple of tense overnight moments when a temp tm suffering from energy drink rage and astonishingly poor judgement even for a kid his age tried to punch a tl. He was escorted out but I’ve often thought stores should have designated muscle.

The store would rather have you take a punch than give one.