Target will pay employees an extra $2 an hour for peak days of holiday season

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Clearly you don’t understand how bad socialism really is, Capitalism over socialism or communism any day. I’d hate to be someone who doesn’t wanna work hard for much of anything smh.

In an effort to avoid politics but to actually do some education, look up worker owned companies.
Companies like Publix are completely owned and run by the employees.
It's still capatilism but the workers own the company.
There are also worker co-ops like the bicycle shop my brother owns.
Every employee is an owner, every employee gets good wages and benefits.
They split any profit from the store at the end of the year.
Right now there is no profit because there aren't any bike parts but that's another story.
The workers can own the company.
They just have to want to.
 

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In an effort to avoid politics but to actually do some education, look up worker owned companies.
Companies like Publix are completely owned and run by the employees.
It's still capatilism but the workers own the company.
There are also worker co-ops like the bicycle shop my brother owns.
Every employee is an owner, every employee gets good wages and benefits.
They split any profit from the store at the end of the year.
Right now there is no profit because there aren't any bike parts but that's another story.
The workers can own the company.
They just have to want to.
First of thanks for having a decent answer, Second while I think a lot of people getting paid similar is a good thing, There are people who work hard enough that actually deserve better and higher wages compared to those who just started or don’t do their jobs. And you know what, I’ll actually research Worker Owned Companies and see if that’s actually worth it or if it’s just some bs.
 

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Typical response from a liberal or socialist. No real reasoning of course.
You are of course aware that Social Security is socialism. And Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, WIC, food stamps, SSDI, minimum wage, Section 8, mandatory workman's comp, unemployment benefits, and all those stimulus checks you are currently getting. Also roads, bridges, schools, libraries, police, firefighters, EMS, OSHA standards, safe building codes, safe food and laws against price gouging. All of that is socialism. Wouldn't a little bit of an expansion to living wage and universal health care be good for society as a whole and not much more socialism than we already have?
 

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Sad that they are that desperate that they do this make an extra two dollars on weekends and during the busy times. Make commercials saying apply and qoute unqoute pay for college. It because they are horrible and nobody wants to apply.
Idiot companies caving into the left of course and these idiots who don’t wanna work and because everything has to be fair, Fairness in the workplace is fine but I don’t want a lazy bum who hasn’t been here as long as me get paid the same or higher. And yeah they are desperate for sure, Cus a lot of people see the bs with this company. I can’t wait to quit here when I can find a new job but I can’t rn because these employers aren’t giving me a chance and yet will complain about a shortage but are lazy to train.
 

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You are of course aware that Social Security is socialism. And Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, WIC, food stamps, SSDI, minimum wage, Section 8, mandatory workman's comp, unemployment benefits, and all those stimulus checks you are currently getting. Also roads, bridges, schools, libraries, police, firefighters, EMS, OSHA standards, safe building codes, safe food and laws against price gouging. All of that is socialism. Wouldn't a little bit of an expansion to living wage and universal health care be good for society as a whole and not much more socialism than we already have?
Those are benefits especially as you get older depending on what it is and your status, People may say that’s socialism but that’s not available to everyone. The other things you mentioned are for tax purposes. Quit trying to defend these people because you don’t really wanna work hard or because your feelings are hurt by the world that you aren’t getting the kind of pay you want because you work for a company that won’t give you what you want. Socialism is a joke. The idea hurts hard workers with a deserving wage.
 

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Those are benefits especially as you get older depending on what it is and your status, People may say that’s socialism but that’s not available to everyone. The other things you mentioned are for tax purposes. Quit trying to defend these people because you don’t really wanna work hard or because your feelings are hurt by the world that you aren’t getting the kind of pay you want because you work for a company that won’t give you what you want. Socialism is a joke. The idea hurts hard workers with a deserving wage.
Socialism is an economic system that receives what people can give, according to their needs (sort of like tiered tax percentages), and using that to support the social good and make sure the lowest standard of living will still provide all the basics needed for life. That does not say everything is available for everyone, that says that a society will put a humane limit on the lowest one can go. None of this 1 in 7 kids go hungry shit or homelessness due to bad luck like a catastrophic medical bill shit.
 

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Socialism is an economic system that receives what people can give, according to their needs (sort of like tiered tax percentages), and using that to support the social good and make sure the lowest standard of living will still provide all the basics needed for life. That does not say everything is available for everyone, that says that a society will put a humane limit on the lowest one can go. None of this 1 in 7 kids go hungry shit or homelessness due to bad luck like a catastrophic medical bill shit.
Well nobody wants to become a socialist country except people who don’t wanna really work or ones who wanna sit around most of the time. All cus people are raised soft or are easily manipulated. It’s bad enough Target pays $15hr and most people think they some bosses or are better than ones who been here for a while but end up being the laziest. It’s no wonder this company is turning into a real joke along with others hence why a lot of people support socialism and whatnot.
 
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Well nobody wants to become a socialist country except people who don’t wanna really work or ones who wanna sit around most of the time. All cus people are raised soft or are easily manipulated. It’s bad enough Target pays $15hr and most people think they some bosses or are better than ones who been here for a while but end up being the laziest. It’s no wonder this company is turning into a real joke along with others hence why a lot of people support socialism and whatnot.
Please go to the political thread. @Duval Dawg
 
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You are of course aware that Social Security is socialism. And Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, WIC, food stamps, SSDI, minimum wage, Section 8, mandatory workman's comp, unemployment benefits, and all those stimulus checks you are currently getting. Also roads, bridges, schools, libraries, police, firefighters, EMS, OSHA standards, safe building codes, safe food and laws against price gouging. All of that is socialism. Wouldn't a little bit of an expansion to living wage and universal health care be good for society as a whole and not much more socialism than we already have?

I'm going to push back a little bit and only a little because it's not the politics thread. Socialism is not when the government does things. Social programs do not equal socialism. While socialism has many flavors, the overriding ethos is that socialism is worker control of the means of production. Whether that be through co-ops, guilds, dissolution of markets, or the dictatorship of the proletariat depends on the flavor of socialism.
 

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It’s bad enough Target pays $15hr and most people think they some bosses or are better than ones who been here for a while but end up being the laziest. It’s no wonder this company is turning into a real joke along with others hence why a lot of people support socialism and whatnot.
And are you still working at Target?
 
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The com po any i joined is employee owned.. I'm currently staring at a healthy year end bonus, another bonus in q1, health care , life insurance, 20 holidays, 2 weeks+ pto. On top of a host of fringe benefits
 

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And are you still working at Target?
Yep and it’s only cus these jobs I applied to won’t give me a chance yet they are desperately hiring. That’s the only reason I’m still at my store dealing with the same garbage that the company allows.
 
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Well nobody wants to become a socialist country except people who don’t wanna really work or ones who wanna sit around most of the time. All cus people are raised soft or are easily manipulated. It’s bad enough Target pays $15hr and most people think they some bosses or are better than ones who been here for a while but end up being the laziest. It’s no wonder this company is turning into a real joke along with others hence why a lot of people support socialism and whatnot.
Question for you. Do you not agree that target should be paying a min of 15?

Also something that is a bit of a fact is (unless you’re going for high ETL or even corporate offices ) that you are replaceable. If I told my HR / ETL today “Amazon is offering me $17 an hour, Can you match that?” (Even if they had the ability) they would more than likely say “Good luck at amazon lol”. This is just because they know for a fact that someone can do my job for less.

Now say if I was a SD or a very important ETL like HR Target may match the higher price (This is a guess i could totally be wrong here).

Also I don’t really agree by saying that you could become a socialist because you were raised soft or are lazy because if I am honest. I am literally one of the hardest working members of my team a lot of the time more than the DBO. My ETL is a great boss BECAUSE being an “alright” department is just not enough and we both silently came to that conclusion. I am pretty socialist but not communist and to each their own. In my experience people who are lightly “socialist” are some of the hardest working people I know and it’s really difficult to keep putting in 100 and it’s just not enough. Most of the time it’s just wanting more services and better health care.
 
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Also something that is a bit of a fact is (unless you’re going for high ETL or even corporate offices ) that you are replaceable. If I told my HR / ETL today “Amazon is offering me $17 an hour, Can you match that?” (Even if they had the ability) they would more than likely say “Good luck at amazon lol”. This is just because they know for a fact that someone can do my job for less.
Exactly! Also Amazon is far more demanding lol. They treat their employees all like criminals and big brother them to death. $$$$$ is important but so isnt dignity.
 
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Exactly! Also Amazon is far more demanding lol. They treat their employees all like criminals and big brother them to death. $$$$$ is important but so isnt dignity.
Yeah but my point is that as much as target "cares" we are really not that important. For example, If the lead dev for myDay says that they're considering leaving target will pull a lot more string than say a DBO in a store. Just because it is harder to replace them. Also lets get the fact that 15 an hour is really not a lot considering how much sales we drive (at least my store).
 

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Yeah but my point is that as much as target "cares" we are really not that important. For example, If the lead dev for myDay says that they're considering leaving target will pull a lot more string than say a DBO in a store. Just because it is harder to replace them. Also lets get the fact that 15 an hour is really not a lot considering how much sales we drive (at least my store).
And I wish I saw it coming before when I applied, Don’t get me wrong I liked it better than my last job, I barely got paid and had no benefits and I was in the heat most of the time with one break a day. But these managers and corporate continue to lie and have been for years they don’t give a fuck unless you suck up to them and I’m never going to with these people at my store and that’s partly why I get some shittier treatment than some. The politics they push with country issues plus their own is so annoying and wack, About everyone is out of touch, work snitch culture is welcomed especially over petty shit, (Management be petty af too), I used to keep my mouth shut and I still try to honestly shrug off their garbage talks and whatnot but if they really do try me I handle it and tell them they worried about the wrong thing or person. Can’t wait to be gone once I find a new job but I’ll miss the good pay and benefits and a few people who were trustworthy.
 
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  • Target said it will pay an extra $2 an hour to store and service center employees who work peak days during the holiday season, such as on Saturdays and Sundays in the final weeks before Christmas.
The extra pay will go to store employees and service center employees who work on Saturdays and Sundays from Nov. 20 to Dec. 19, on Christmas Eve or on the day after Christmas.

This is a good step for Target. It will certainly reduce call-outs during an extremely busy season of the year. However, it's limited to a very precise number of days and had me wondering about two alternative approaches: first, having that premium pay on select weekends bumped even more to make it even more irresistible ($5/hour), or second, offering the $2/hour bump for all days worked during that time frame. Of all major US brick-and-mortar retailers, Target is best positioned to earn major profits during this 2021 Christmas Holiday season.
 

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This is a good step for Target. It will certainly reduce call-outs during an extremely busy season of the year. However, it's limited to a very precise number of days and had me wondering about two alternative approaches: first, having that premium pay on select weekends bumped even more to make it even more irresistible ($5/hour), or second, offering the $2/hour bump for all days worked during that time frame. Of all major US brick-and-mortar retailers, Target is best positioned to earn major profits during this 2021 Christmas Holiday season.
Weekends are when we have the most call-outs so it should be interesting to see if this has any impact.
 
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I'm honestly really surprised by some of the negative reactions to this. Not only are they paying $2/hour more on the weekends, they bumped up the starting pay for many stores and are hiring fewer seasonal employees in favor of more hours for existing employees.
Someone with holiday plans doesn’t care about the extra $16 they’ll miss out on. Call ins will still happen.
 
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