I felt like bringing up this topic again because it's interesting yet mystifying (at least to me, lol). I've tried before, and the thread failed miserably, and I think someone else started this discussion as well, but I'm assuming the thread just died or something as I can't even find it. So let's try again. Third times a charm, right? I mostly bring this up after a YouTuber I follow posted a video on his/her opinions (with some research, allegedly) on the topic. It's the first rational thing I feel like I've heard, at least on the internet, about the topic, so I felt like sharing. When it comes to the more opinion side of the discussion, her views totally align with my own. My biggest question about this topic is why can't people just wear and look however they want, without having to change their entire identity and start a whole social movement over it to shame people into accepting it? Like, there's nothing gender specific about colors or clothing, so then what's even the point of the excessive gender labels? For example: Can't you just be a man, that wears makeup, but is still just a man? Just because makeup isn't marketed towards you, what impact does that have on your gender identity? It doesn't make sense to me, because it just seems to reaffirm social constructs and stereotypes. When you call yourself anything but outside you gender/sex because you like things that go against a stereotype, you're insinuating those items are only for a certain gender. Right? RIGHT? I DUNNO?!?!?! Does no one else feel that? I feel so frustrated and alone on that, and I'm not even sure I'm explaining my thought well enough. Maybe as just a straight person whom has never had any gender identity issues, maybe I just lack the empathy. But without the emotional investment, it's hard to see the logic. So there you go. Thoughts? opinions? Experiences?