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I start my new job at Walmart on monday. The Fred Meyer was just a temp that I had to cut off early since they needed me right away. Want to know the funny thing? My new shirts and pants for walmart were all bought at Target.
 
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I don't know what makes me more upset. The fact wal-mart is paying more of a percentage of profit for salaries, or the fact you went with freaking wal-mart as a step up from target. Dear God, I need to find a new job.
 
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lol

I dont really give a damn where I work. Plus its $9.90. ($1.00 over night difernatal pay) $1.05 more then I made over at spot. The Fred meyer one was a great job but it was only temp (Asked about staying on but they never gave me an answer) and with me planing on moving I need any extra help I can get.

I'll experience it first hand rather then reading rumors and stories from "employees" on the internet.
 
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lol

I dont really give a damn where I work. Plus its $9.90. ($1.00 over night difernatal pay) $1.05 more then I made over at spot. The Fred meyer one was a great job but it was only temp (Asked about staying on but they never gave me an answer) and with me planing on moving I need any extra help I can get.

I'll experience it first hand rather then reading rumors and stories from "employees" on the internet.
I've worked for Walmart before, specifically I was on their version of the "flow team" It was a few years ago so I was paid just under $9.00 which was a lot more than Target at the time which was paying less than $7.00. I noticed some huge differences between Target and Walmart which I will arrange in a pro's and con's form below. How much the issues matter to you is what will make your experience awesome, or ************ty. Mileage will vary by location though. Also some of these don't have an effect on you directly, but they matter in the sense of the effect customers will have on your sanity even as third shift help.

Target

Pro's

- Customers are typically higher income
- Chic fashion attracts more attractive clientele
- In general better product lineups
- More attractive store design
- Larger focus on Electronics
- Larger focus on image
- Management leaves you alone
- Holidays are pretty tame

Con's

- Pay isn't competitive with the industry
- No overtime
- Hr/ETLs make promises they cannot keep (in general)
- Black out dates suck
- Discount is crap (10%)
- Customer focused attitude
- Too much tasking
-Too much delegating
- Holiday pay is only 1.5x
- No 1.5x pay on Sundays

Walmart

Pro's

- Better pay
- Better hours
- Overtime!
- Better benefits
- Profit sharing
- Management plays it straight up. (If you suck, they tell you, right then.)
- Better discount (20%)
- Holiday pay is 2x
- 1.5x pay for working on Sunday as Flow (stock team)
- Customers are not the primary focus unless you are sales floor, even then you aren't required to seek them out.

Con's

- Customers are some of the craziest in the world
- You will get ignored and yelled at the most at Walmart
- The store is always a huge mess
- Christmas is hell. Black Friday is the worst I've experienced in retail. Black Friday in a comparable sales volume store at Target was heaven compared to Walmart.
- Immense pressure to perform
- Management checks up on you like you are a little kid
- Advancement is difficult to come by

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Funny, in my experience those pro's and con's are flipped around entirely for the two stores. Then again, I went from wal-mart to Target. I suppose it depends entirely on the district.
 

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As a current Walmart associate I would like to inform you on a few things, as I do not want you getting your hopes too high.

discount is 10% not 20% which sucks!
There used to be an extra $1/hr on Sunday, however if you are hired after like Jan 1, 2011 that is no longer the case. (a long time ago, it was time and a half on Sundays, but that is loooooonggggg gone.
I am not sure what the (stock team) is, maybe it is just overnight stockers? (I do not know as I work in the pharmacy and I am gone by 9 every night.)
They really try to minimize overtime, only the District Manager can approve it.
The "10 foot attitude" is very strong in the store. "If you are within 10 feet of a customer, be sure to greet them or at least smile at them blah blah blah."
They just dropped down this thing called "My Guide" where you scan the barcode on your name badge to see the jobs for the day assigned to you and you need to periodically update it to show your progress, and if you don't get something done then you need to tell management before you leave. (This should minimize management hovering over you.)
Another con is if you work on the sales floor at Walmart you are working freight all day long no matter what shift you work, we don't close at all so it is harder to keep the shelves full. (at least in my high volume store, that is why i hate working on the floor, i hate working freight. )
 
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Its a whole different breed then Target thats for sure. Seems more streamlined and Everyone seemed nice and I was surprised over a few things:

- The amount of managers each department has. they have a department manager, then a co- manager then an assistant manager on top of that and like another manager. The higher up it goes the more departments they cover.
- AP wears street clothes and they ditched the cuffs. They rather see $1,000 worth of items get stolen then to have someone get hurt.
- they are a bit more "stricter" on things but I see that as a good thing. Get peoples asses in shape and the slackers out the door. So far I have yet to see any 20 something fresh out of college managment there unlike you know who.. :secret:
- they have an employee website that has pretty much everything including ways to chat with other associates and things are more open so if you want to know what the sales were for the end of the quarter you can find out.

and yes it is 10% off GM and produce but thats after I've been there 90 days. Its been hetic for the past year and a half but I think I've found my place. Just got to see if I will match up with those "stories" you hear on the internet but so far its not been like that.
 

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discount is 10% not 20% which sucks!
When my girlfriend worked at Sears, she got a 20% discount, but it wasn't worth all the **** she had to put up with. After she quit, she found out that she was gonna be fired anyways for not getting enough customers to open store credit cards. Our Team Member Discount may suck, but at least we don't get termed for not getting enough RedCards. I haven't gotten a RedCard in months, and I haven't even been coached yet.
 
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I liked the discount I got at FM. clothing was 20% and they have good deals on clothes all the time. (and they were good quality too. I would say about as close to JC Penny Quality.) Plus home goods were 15%. Clearance items were really good.

I don't know how walmart does with their "blue cards". I think its buy request only or may be in electronics.
 
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Funny, in my experience those pro's and con's are flipped around entirely for the two stores. Then again, I went from wal-mart to Target. I suppose it depends entirely on the district.
I also went from Walmart to Target. I must of been lucky lol.

As a current Walmart associate I would like to inform you on a few things, as I do not want you getting your hopes too high.

discount is 10% not 20% which sucks!
There used to be an extra $1/hr on Sunday, however if you are hired after like Jan 1, 2011 that is no longer the case. (a long time ago, it was time and a half on Sundays, but that is loooooonggggg gone.
I am not sure what the (stock team) is, maybe it is just overnight stockers? (I do not know as I work in the pharmacy and I am gone by 9 every night.)
They really try to minimize overtime, only the District Manager can approve it.
The "10 foot attitude" is very strong in the store. "If you are within 10 feet of a customer, be sure to greet them or at least smile at them blah blah blah."
They just dropped down this thing called "My Guide" where you scan the barcode on your name badge to see the jobs for the day assigned to you and you need to periodically update it to show your progress, and if you don't get something done then you need to tell management before you leave. (This should minimize management hovering over you.)
Another con is if you work on the sales floor at Walmart you are working freight all day long no matter what shift you work, we don't close at all so it is harder to keep the shelves full. (at least in my high volume store, that is why i hate working on the floor, i hate working freight. )
Ahh yeah Walmart has changed a lot then. I posted the way things were a few years ago lol.

Its a whole different breed then Target thats for sure. Seems more streamlined and Everyone seemed nice and I was surprised over a few things:

- The amount of managers each department has. they have a department manager, then a co- manager then an assistant manager on top of that and like another manager. The higher up it goes the more departments they cover.
- AP wears street clothes and they ditched the cuffs. They rather see $1,000 worth of items get stolen then to have someone get hurt.
- they are a bit more "stricter" on things but I see that as a good thing. Get peoples asses in shape and the slackers out the door. So far I have yet to see any 20 something fresh out of college managment there unlike you know who.. :secret:
- they have an employee website that has pretty much everything including ways to chat with other associates and things are more open so if you want to know what the sales were for the end of the quarter you can find out.

and yes it is 10% off GM and produce but thats after I've been there 90 days. Its been hetic for the past year and a half but I think I've found my place. Just got to see if I will match up with those "stories" you hear on the internet but so far its not been like that.
Wow... I got my 20% discount card before my 90 days... The rule though at the time was if I left I'd lose it and have to reimburse it. It's a shame the discounts are so crappy now. When I worked at best buy a decade ago I paid 5% above vendor price for most items in the store. On the items with high mark up this resulted in up to 70% off. I bought a set of pc surround sound for 40 dollars once as an employee that sold for 200 off the shelf. Not sure if they still do that or not... doubt it.
 
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yeah today we talked about "meal exceptions" and its something you do not want. They expect us to keep track of our time, breaks and lunches. no one "baby sits" us. Over all it seems to be more structured. I'm getting a lot more training then I did at Target. Starting to wonder if all the "bad stuff" you hear about working for walmart is just lazzy workers because like I said they are strict about stuff like getting the job done andn keeping track of your time.
 
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yeah today we talked about "meal exceptions" and its something you do not want. They expect us to keep track of our time, breaks and lunches. no one "baby sits" us. Over all it seems to be more structured. I'm getting a lot more training then I did at Target. Starting to wonder if all the "bad stuff" you hear about working for walmart is just lazzy workers because like I said they are strict about stuff like getting the job done andn keeping track of your time.
It depends on the store. Something else I forgot to mention, as an overnight stocker it wasn't unusual for me to be stuck pushing 15 pallets a night while other tms would push 3 pallets a night worth of big boxes. I was faster, and got more worked shoved onto me. Even after I slowed down I was moved to cosmetics/health goods/ pets/ grocery to push 6-15 pallets a night there. The store I was at wasn't good at spreading the work out equally but what store is?
 
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I'm curious as to how a "customer focused attitude," is a "con"?

What exactly would we be doing if we didn't have customers?

And how would the company, whatever company it may be, have the money to pay us if they didn't have customers?
 
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The thing I learned a few years back at Mcdonalds (first job once I became a senior in High school) is if we did not have customers we would be with out a job. The customer's pay us our checks. (Hell it even said "A satisfied customer made this check possible" on my checks from FM. ) If you are working in a service provider (retail, restaurants etc) then you need to provide the best customer service possible.

At Walmart for example we have this 10 foot rule, created by old sam boy him self. Where we have to greet each customer who comes with in 10 feet of us. They also like us to offer to physically show them where the item is rather then just pointing. We do it the more "human way" rather then "Welcome to Target. Home of the bullseye can I help you find something"
 
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If you have enough guests who are angry and/or try to take advantage of guest-friendly policies. That's how.
As I said before, I'm fully aware that there are plenty of customers who are, fill in the blank, but without them, we wouldn't have jobs.

In my time in retail, I've mostly worked in convenience stores and in a lot of ways that's worse in terms of irate customers, who are drunk, high, stupid, or some combination of the three and you have to deal with them yourself.

Still, if we didn't have customers, they'd have to close the store and we'd no longer have a job.
 
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I'm curious as to how a "customer focused attitude," is a "con"?

What exactly would we be doing if we didn't have customers?

And how would the company, whatever company it may be, have the money to pay us if they didn't have customers?
It's a con when comparing overnight/early morning stocking positions. As a stocker you aren't there for the customer directly. That's what sales floor are for. Sure everyone has to help, but Targets attitude was DROP EVERYTHING, whereas Walmarts attitude was to help them quickly or find someone that has the time.

But besides that you can't really say Targets demands of sales floor harassing every guest that comes in the door is very fair... Many people didn't want to be bothered. Plus Target doesn't truly care about guests or they would fully staff the floor along with specialists in Electronics and team leads that work in their own departments only with their own teams.
 
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I'm new to this forum and hopefully to target, but I am far from new to retail.

I understand the point that if you are working a truck, facing the store, running the floor machine, etc. then customer service isn't you job, that's what the sales team is there for.

BUT, I totally disagree with that.

Customer service is Everyone's job.

Annoying though they may be at times, they are the reason we have a job.

I'd agree that it can be taken too far.

As a customer, I don't like it when I go in a store and as soon as I walk in the door, I have someone in my face offering to help me.

Home Depot is REALLY bad about that and they loose my business to Lowe's, mostly for that reason.

At the same time, as a customer, it really sends me into orbit when someone acts like they're doing me a favor while I'm spending my money in their store.
 
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It's a con when comparing overnight/early morning stocking positions. As a stocker you aren't there for the customer directly. That's what sales floor are for. Sure everyone has to help, but Targets attitude was DROP EVERYTHING, whereas Walmarts attitude was to help them quickly or find someone that has the time.
and see Walmart is a 24 hour store where as Target is a 13-14 hour store. Also walmart might sell a bit more then Target. Now back to the customers. We do get people who shop early in the morning and while we may be busy stocking we still need top help them. Even if we don't know, we can find someone who does.


But besides that you can't really say Targets demands of sales floor harassing every guest that comes in the door is very fair... Many people didn't want to be bothered. Plus Target doesn't truly care about guests or they would fully staff the floor along with specialists in Electronics and team leads that work in their own departments only with their own teams.
Exactly. There would be a cosmetic table with someone who would help pick out the best color (you can shoot me if they take this idea) but the general idea would be that target would have a person in each deparment who knows about that area.


I'm new to this forum and hopefully to target, but I am far from new to retail.

I understand the point that if you are working a truck, facing the store, running the floor machine, etc. then customer service isn't you job, that's what the sales team is there for.

BUT, I totally disagree with that.

Customer service is Everyone's job.

Annoying though they may be at times, they are the reason we have a job.

I'd agree that it can be taken too far.

As a customer, I don't like it when I go in a store and as soon as I walk in the door, I have someone in my face offering to help me.

Home Depot is REALLY bad about that and they loose my business to Lowe's, mostly for that reason.

At the same time, as a customer, it really sends me into orbit when someone acts like they're doing me a favor while I'm spending my money in their store.
Best Buy is the same. I then get "are you sure?" Hell I had one girl who checked my upgrade for me and when I told her I was on Sprint's premir status she laughed and said "yeah right"
 
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