Archived Ap dating

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Hardlinesguy76 said:
It's still unacceptable for any ap team members including the etl to date or mess with anybody in the store including other etls, correct?
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I actually read the policy today looking for
Something else in the handbook. The only dating policy is you can not date your immediate supervisor. It states nothing about AP. Although it’s definitely frowned upon and I’m sure a lot of SDs would say it’s against policy, it’s not in the handbook
 
It does state in the handbook that no leader can date anyone they oversee, ap oversees the entire store and might be willing to let things slide if the person they are dating does something they aren't supposed to
 
Hardlinesguy76 said:
It does state in the handbook that no leader can date anyone they oversee, ap oversees the entire store and might be willing to let things slide if the person they are dating does something they aren't supposed to
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That’s not true. They are not the direct supervisor and therefore allowed. Again frowned upon but not against the rules. If you’re so certain why’d you even ask?
 
gsa4lyfe said:
That’s not true. They are not the direct supervisor and therefore allowed. Again frowned upon but not against the rules. If you’re so certain why’d you even ask?
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It’s the same thing with HR. HR can’t date anyone in store as they oversee the entire store. HR could modify schedules and let meal or work punches slides for this person.

AP oversees the entire store. If the TM stole something, the APTM might look the other way if they stole something or didn’t follow safety rules.


AP (safety and stealing/investigations), HR (schedule and work/meal punches), ETLs and the TL for that department cannot date TMs. Anyone that has authority over you cannot be dating with them.
 
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We just have an issue at my store and just wanted to get other opinions before I take action
 
From the dating thread.


ExpertTL said:
The Dating Guide!​

I was weirdly bored today and see so many questions on this board (and in my own store actually...) about what is allowed and who can date who. Disclaimer though...anything is technically possible depending on who you know and what HR will allow pending investigation. However most of it is pretty black and white.

If you are a.....​

Team Member - Non AP/HR/GSA/Perishables Asst

Completely Okay! Go For It!
  • Dating another non AP/HR/GSA/Perishables Asst Team Member
  • Dating any TM/TL/ETL at another store
  • Dating a TL at your store that is not your direct supervisor - i.e. Cashier dating Logistics TL
  • Dating contract TMs such as Beauty Concierge or Target Mobile
Slight Conflict of Interest - Proceed With Caution Depending on Store:
  • Dating a GSA/Perishables Asst - No conflict of interest if you do not work in the same workcenter. Cashiers dating GSAs and PFresh TMs dating PAs is a slight conflict of interest depending on the authority your store gives to these positions. In my store for example, GSAs are only high potential TLs and would not be allowed.
  • Dating a Senior TL - most stores won't allow because the Senior TL may be LOD at any moment's notice, and anyone who is an LOD cannot date TMs. However your store may be open to it if you do not report directly to the TL
Not Allowed - Stay Away:
  • Dating anyone from AP/HR - Not allowed. AP could allow you to get away with too much from an investigation and shortage perspective, and the HR team could give you unfair favors in scheduling, change your punches, and other factors
  • Dating your direct TL supervisor - not allowed due to the nature of the reporting relationship. Huge conflict of interest.
  • Dating ANY ETL regardless of position or your STL - not allowed due to the fact that the LOD is the highest authority in the building and even ETLs that you do not report to are able to influence your position (merit scores, contribution meetings, etc.). STL is pretty self explanatory.
Team Leader - Non Senior, Including SFT

Completely Okay! Go For It!
  • Dating a TM that is not your direct report (i.e. Sales Floor TL dating cashier)
  • Dating any TM/TL/ETL at another store
  • Dating a TL peer outside of your department (i.e. GSTL dating Presentation TL)
  • Dating contract TMs such as Beauty Concierge or Target Mobile
Slight Conflict of Interest - Proceed With Caution Depending on Store:
  • Dating a Senior TL - most stores won't allow because the Senior TL may be LOD at any moment's notice, and the LOD will have to give direction to the TL which can cause conflict of interest. Although again, some stores will allow based on review
  • Dating a TL peer in your department (i.e. two Logistics TLs dating is pretty much not allowed due to the fact your working relationship is easily affected). I have seen stores where this is allowed but it is VERY rare.
Not Allowed - Stay Away:
  • Dating anyone from AP/HR - Not allowed. AP could allow you to get away with too much from an investigation and shortage perspective, and the HR team could give you unfair favors in scheduling, change your punches, and other factors
  • Dating your direct report - GSTL dating cashier or GSA, Sales Floor TL dating Hardlines TM...pretty self explanatory. So much potential for disaster.
  • Dating ANY ETL regardless of position or your STL - not allowed due to the fact that the LOD is the highest authority in the building and even ETLs that you do not report to are able to influence your position (merit scores, contribution meetings, etc.). STL is pretty self explanatory.
Executive Team Leader - non HR/AP, Senior TL

Completely Okay! Go For It!
  • Dating any TM/TL/ETL at another store
Slight Conflict of Interest - Proceed With Caution Depending on Store:
  • Dating a ETL peer - I have heard of many stories with two ETLs dating or being married but it is still iffy. It is too easy for there to be conflicts of interest during ETL meetings or a bad working relationship depending on their relationship. This would still to me be a big no-no in my district--one ETL has always had to transfer to another store.
Not Allowed - Stay Away:
  • Dating anyone in the store! As an LOD you are in charge of the whole store and thus all TMs directly report to you during that time. Plus ETLs and even SrTLs have access to modify timesheets, scheduling, AP camera room, and soooo much more. Do. Not. Do. It.
  • Dating your STL - umm....duh.
All HR/AP Team Members, Store Team Leader

Completely Okay! Go For It!
  • Dating any TM/TL/ETL at another store
Slight Conflict of Interest - Proceed With Caution Depending on Store:
  • STL dating another STL in the same district - I have not first hand seen this happen, but this relationship could affect things such as promotions and transfers between different stores. Now this is easily worked around, but not black and white. Depends on your DTL but most likely would be okay pending investigation.
  • STL dating a business partner or equivalent - Possible. But it is a huge conflict of interest in some positions such as STL dating HRBP or Group Merchandising Leader during assessments or visits. Don't even get me started on STL dating HRBP in context of hotline calls!
Not Allowed - Stay Away:
  • Dating anyone in the store! As a TM in these positions you have so many ways to give favoritism or unfair treatment that it would take forever to type them out.
  • STL dating a DTL, GTL, etc. - No. No. No. At that level you could probably move mountains at Target and get away with bloody murder.
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JohnSith373 said:
It’s the same thing with HR. HR can’t date anyone in store as they oversee the entire store. HR could modify schedules and let meal or work punches slides for this person.

AP oversees the entire store. If the TM stole something, the APTM might look the other way if they stole something or didn’t follow safety rules.


AP (safety and stealing/investigations), HR (schedule and work/meal punches), ETLs and the TL for that department cannot date TMs. Anyone that has authority over you cannot be dating with them.
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They can’t strictly enforce something that’s not clearly written in black and white. I agree it’s unethical but so is HR having family working at the store but I’ve seen that plenty of times
 
I know one of our TPS had to switch stores cause he began dating a GSA.
 
a TL has dated an AP TM before at my store. It was very public knowledge so even if it was a little iffy nobody thought anything of it. I expect it to vary based on circumstance.

Also, that "dating guide" should be edited to include "any TL with keys is a no go" instead of Sr. TL, since that position is donezo.
 
The newest handbook doesn't distinguish between leaders, saying only, "Target leaders may not date or have romantic/intimate relationships with team members they directly supervise."

It does specifically mention AP and HR, "Higher level executives and/or team members with unique responsibilities make trust and credibility especially important (for example, Assets Protection and HR) may have direct and indirect reporting relationships, or even district, group, or region-wide responsibilities. Because of the power inherent in these relationships, the same rules may apply."
 
What’s the word for the Closing TLs our there? No one that works nights? No one below TL? No closing experts? What about closing TL and an ETL? They don’t report to the ETLs, they report to the STL.
 
Sarahainsley1095 said:
I know an STL/SD actively pursuing a relationship with an HR ETL in the same store. Nothing sexual has occurred but just making out. If this was found out and reported, what would likely happen? Asking for a friend lol
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Depends on how good at their respective jobs each is and how well liked each is by District and above. Discipline could range anywhere from transferring one of them or terming both.
 
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