I wonder if...

#1
Hey all! I wonder if the original thebreakroom.org is down because of the June 17 union vote coming up in Queens, NY. I hate to be "grouchy" but it wouldn't surprise me if the old site was forced to shut down until the vote is over.

Am I being paranoid? Of course! What do you all think...?
 
#2
Not entirely sure how that would be related... could be but doesn't seem very likely in my opinion... then again... what do I know? lol
 
#3
I don't think so. The union thread went left field to other off topics.

Another user was on the forum when the server when down. He said the server went crazy on his computer.
Plus, scram email & other non spot forum are down too.

Welcome back, my old friend!
 
#4
I don't think so. The union thread went left field to other off topics.

Another user was on the forum when the server when down. He said the server went crazy on his computer.
Plus, scram email & other non spot forum are down too.

Welcome back, my old friend!
Thanks, I feel better now! You have restored my faith in the company...well, not entirely!
 

The Mule

Jack Of All Workcenters
#6
It's not up to Target if a union can come in or not. Federal laws exist to allow for virtually any work force to unionize to receive collective bargaining rights. On that same note though, there is no federal laws protecting a union from an employer deciding to close a store and negate the existence of a union any more.
 
#7
If not why is the original site still down?

If a site is down this long it is usually because it is being kept down for a reason. I am sure the person maintaining the server should have been tech savvy enough to get the site up even with limited functionality by now or at least find someone who could.
 

The Mule

Jack Of All Workcenters
#8
Too many variables involved to speculate. Maybe he's unemployed and can't afford to fix things, as in if a motherboard is fried and he doesn't have the $150 to drop on a decent board. Perhaps he had a database corruption and is busy with work so much he isn't able to rebuild everything right now. Point is it is PURE SPECULATION at this point to assume Target is somehow responsible for the site going down. It is a coincidence that the site went down during union talks at a store, nothing more.
 
#9
Target Corp. was the first thing I thought of when the old forum went down. Doesn't mean it's true but they do forbid social networking talk or at least I heard that somewhere.

Gawker.com has had a lot of articles on the NY Union vote and is now showing the orientation video and flyers. Maybe Target didn't want an online forum for Gawker to find posts about employee experiences?

Yesterday, Gawker posted a leaked Target union video and now Target is saying they don't use that video anymore. True? www.mogulite.com/target-anti-union-video/
 
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The Mule

Jack Of All Workcenters
#10
Target doesn't expressly forbid social networking with it's employees. They do however hold them accountable for threats and abusive behavior between team members as well as to not reveal any trade secrets to outsiders. As long as you are friendly and responsible they will have no room to say anything to you about your private activities. Check on workbench for their official policy for social media websites, it should have been updated within the last few months if I remember.
 

commiecorvus

Former Signing Ninja
Staff member
Moderator
#11
I don't think the site going down had anything to do with the union thread and I'm sure folks here will tell you I'm the first to look for the worst from the man.
The very nature of the net is change, sites come and go for all kinds of reasons. I'm just glad that we were able to find a new home.
 

Parker51

Senior Team Member
#12
It's not up to Target if a union can come in or not. Federal laws exist to allow for virtually any work force to unionize to receive collective bargaining rights. On that same note though, there is no federal laws protecting a union from an employer deciding to close a store and negate the existence of a union any more.

I'm pretty sure that neither of us are labor lawyers. I'm also not necessarily arguing for or against UFCW representation for Target employees.

However, you might want to read up on "Runaway Shop Doctrine" and what happens when the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) finds such a closing to be a runaway shop, where the business is closed and relocated simply to avoid having to recognize and negotiate with a certified employee's union. Boeing is currently having trouble with the NLRB over plans to set up an aircraft assembly plant in South Carolina for this reason.

Target realizes this when it gives a coy "There are no guarantees" answer rather than blatantly threatening to close the store, which would arguably be illegal. Being coy, and arguing purely economic motives for closing would make a case for a "runaway shop" hard to prove, but not impossible.
 

Formina Sage

Crown stacker champ
Staff member
Administrator
#15
If the previous forum owner was into talking Target so much then why isn't that person here in the meantime?
Maybe he hasn't found it, or hasn't cared enough to search. Scram seemed to be online very sporadically and irregularly as far as the old forum was concerned.
 
#16
Scram doesn't work for spot anymore. He is a dispatcher & goes school. He does have other forums, he runs too. Those servers are down too. I wished I had save the info on the old forum. But, I am not giving up yet.
 
#17
I'm not sure what happened either. I had Scram's phone/email, but it was saved in my PM box, and was lost with the server. I really hate the idea of starting over so I haven't been here except to check it out a couple times. I think it's great that everyone found a place to gather while the break room is down, but I liked the idea of the topix forum better. This site feels kind of like plagiarism.
 

The Mule

Jack Of All Workcenters
#18
I look at it as the old "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" approach. I ran across the old site and became a member for how involved everyone was and informative the site's resources were. We are on the right track here to keep that going. Another point to consider is if the old site were to be brought back that the transition for anyone would be minimal.
 

Formina Sage

Crown stacker champ
Staff member
Administrator
#19
I simply made the site look the same because I wanted to get it done quickly, and wanted users to be comfortably familiar with the layout of things. Obviously the concept of this site is not my own, and I never claimed it was. If and when Scram gets the original site back up, I'll make every effort to work with him to get everything from here back over there.
 
#20
That is true, I am totally impressed though how quickly this one got up to 200+ members. It might not be as hard to start over as it seems. We'll see. Anyway, It's good to see everyone again!
 
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