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Just wow.
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Seems strange to do this just before fall season. Maybe they hope to use the FC team members for the DC over the busy months.
While I hate to see people lose their jobs, I would not mind our FC going away. They should have their own building and make no sense taking up space in a DC. We would immediately start saving money by being able to process non-con near the wing and not trying to store up to a million cartons offsite.
I do not look forward to having to help our FC trying to take up the slack this year.
While I hate to see people lose their jobs, I would not mind our FC going away. They should have their own building and make no sense taking up space in a DC. We would immediately start saving money by being able to process non-con near the wing and not trying to store up to a million cartons offsite.
I do not look forward to having to help our FC trying to take up the slack this year.
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Can someone clarify how it works to have a Fulfillment Center inside a DC? Do they pick Fulfillment orders like TMs at stores do? I thought that's how it used to be done chain wide but then it was all moved to stores.
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my dc never had a fulfillment center in fact i'm piecing it together mentally now. i'm assuming its where they sent individual orders to customers of course.
we had like a dept of two guys that did that with big orders i think it was at one time (bulky items iirc). i forgot what they called it. but it was done away with years ago and short lived.
Edit: It was called ship alone IIRC.
we had like a dept of two guys that did that with big orders i think it was at one time (bulky items iirc). i forgot what they called it. but it was done away with years ago and short lived.
Edit: It was called ship alone IIRC.
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I know the FCs will help with major releases like Stanley cups and Switch 2 launches. Not sure what else they focus on vs stores.
I thought Target had a "ship to store" service... a guest could order an item and have it shipped to a Target (rather than to their house/work.) I remember items being dropped off in Receiving for guests - not sure if it was UPS/FedEx or a GM
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ETA -- found a Reddit post:
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It doesn’t make sense to have FC if stores are still shipping .com orders out the back. Essentially, you’re paying team members at a FC so much more than you are paying team members at the store to do the same task as well as the FC that are within an existing RDC or taking up capacity space that could be used. Sucks but if they are so focused on budget they need to pick… .com orders from Stores or FC.
But you're also paying for the RDC to load it on a truck, a driver to get it to the store, the store to unload it, push it, potentially backstock it, have fulfillment pick it, and then pack it.
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This is true, but having .com orders go to the store closest to the guest does save on transit costs. Freight is already going from the RDC to the store, where the store unloads it, pushes it, and backstocks extra inventory as part of the normal process. If orders are pulled from backstock, they’re essentially generating more profit.
From a labor perspective, it doesn’t make sense to pay FC employees a higher wage to do the same task store team members are already doing, especially when FC operations inside an RDC take up capacity that could be used for core freight. Adding a fulfillment pick at the store level is just the last step in a process that’s already happening, rather than an entirely separate cost structure like at an FC.
In my seven years with Target (three in a store and the rest in distribution) the only recurring issues I’ve seen with store fulfillment are with preorders and high demand items. Pulling those from store inventory for .com can frustrate in store guests and in store quest taking inventory cause backorder or delay notifications for online guests.
Ultimately, I think the root of the issue is Target trying to mirror Amazon and Walmart on shipping speed instead of leaning into its own unique, standalone approach.
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It stopped some time ago We would get so much that guest service wouldn't have holding space.
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FCs in the RDC share nothing other than the occasional RDC team member when the sorter is down or Black Friday.
The FC just takes up floor space and dock doors. The RDC still ships out trailers from the wing to the FC and the FC receives the trailers in their doors. Then, puts the freight in their “racks” and processes freight out to their shipping company trailers.
The FC just takes up floor space and dock doors. The RDC still ships out trailers from the wing to the FC and the FC receives the trailers in their doors. Then, puts the freight in their “racks” and processes freight out to their shipping company trailers.
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As someone who works at one of these existing locations are you saying we're all for sure being absorbed back into the DC and our FCs are shutting down? Need to know if I should being paying a closer attention to the job postings for our RDC instead of waiting until everyone is looking...
Post covid, have any of the FC, either stand alone or in an existing RDC building, been very busy? You will need to make your own decision on where you think the next round of cuts will be, but like others have already said, duplication of work with both stores and FC teams filling orders, and there are only so many orders to share. An educated guess says it’s a lot easier to close an FC or two than to close several stores from a cost savings standpoint. And I could be impacted too, which is why I’ve been surfing indeed. My building has seen quite a few long time managers, even sr, as well as high profile merit leave in 2025. All by choice, as in getting out before major cuts.
FWIW, our store lost out on top sales (not by much) in the Company for Black Friday the last 2 years to a FC, so at least that 1 day they're doing good numbers.
Wow, 1800 jobs lost this month. Come Feb, more distribution realignment, with many merit folks to be displaced. All the out of control merit headcount’s - time to pay the piper. It’s sad, but honestly about time
the powers in charge realize how out of control and inflated some of these teams are. 10-12 in HR, 25 or so in ICQA, TSS that sit around and do nothing, OMs that have no teams to lead, all making a minimum of $30 hour. That is a lot of waste, the only merits worth a damn are the LWW that actually support working teams. But these won’t be layoffs, as they will have the option to return to WW/WA roles. Its happened before, when the economy was eerily similar to today, and sales were slumping.
the powers in charge realize how out of control and inflated some of these teams are. 10-12 in HR, 25 or so in ICQA, TSS that sit around and do nothing, OMs that have no teams to lead, all making a minimum of $30 hour. That is a lot of waste, the only merits worth a damn are the LWW that actually support working teams. But these won’t be layoffs, as they will have the option to return to WW/WA roles. Its happened before, when the economy was eerily similar to today, and sales were slumping.
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Your site is decreasing merit roles and support om’s?
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Not officially, but let’s just say this is eerily similar to what happened several years ago in the months before eliminating a few merit role teams. No backfilling as merits leave, exempt hiring has slowed considerably, and tasks are being reassigned off site to India or to other internal teams under the guise of “optimization”. Plus, we have had several career OM and SOM leave for other opportunities, all having 20 years here. Having experienced this before, it’s obvious something big is coming, and it’s not going to be fun.
Buildings aren't getting hit anytime soon. And 1800 layoffs is less than one percent of all of Target's employees. Its not a big number.
If and when there are more cuts its going to be more at the HQ level. As painful as these cuts are, I get it. We got bloated at the top. But the other roles its typically not a layoffs as rather they let natural attrition happen and roles slowly don't get backfilled.
Most of the SSDs and SOMs who have left were let go for performance. But Target will never tell the lower echelons why a leader left. Its just a generic "So and So has resigned to pursue other opportunities. We wish them well in their future endeavors".
I know two buildings in East Region and at least one in West have or had been designated "support" sites. Meaning tons of visits from HQ and someone(s) L6 or higher is being let go.
If and when there are more cuts its going to be more at the HQ level. As painful as these cuts are, I get it. We got bloated at the top. But the other roles its typically not a layoffs as rather they let natural attrition happen and roles slowly don't get backfilled.
Most of the SSDs and SOMs who have left were let go for performance. But Target will never tell the lower echelons why a leader left. Its just a generic "So and So has resigned to pursue other opportunities. We wish them well in their future endeavors".
I know two buildings in East Region and at least one in West have or had been designated "support" sites. Meaning tons of visits from HQ and someone(s) L6 or higher is being let go.
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Yup, and with all the anti corporate management rhetoric I find it interesting that companies arent (that) stupid. When it comes time to cut corporate is usually gonna go first. The people doing boots on the ground work cant be spared.
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What merit teams were eliminated years ago? All these merit jobs are a a fairly new thing. We never had alot of merit positions before 5 years ago. It was just 2 clericals on a1, b1 , 4 in the packet office one per shift , security and 4 dispatch also one per shift.
I only remember they did a ship to home thing where they would ship large items like car seats from the dc to your home. That didnt work out and was eliminated, but it was only 2 people in the department total.
Then they cut down on security Maybe 10 years ago and then a few years later loaded up on people again.
Other than that there was no mass culling of merit roles as there has never been many merit roles.
I can't see them cutting down much more on icqa or problem solvers with the level of stupidity and screw ups we have in the building. Somebody has to clean up the messes.
The problem solvers are already stretched thin doing loop tickets and po corrections
Not sure how other building are but non-prod roles like IM or consolidation are where they hide the worthless people who can't be put in prod. The dumb things they do keep our icqa pretty busy.
We had one guy last week pull every single pallet down in an aisle and alot had fp pending. Luckily icqa caught it, and it was the consolidation leads boyfriend of the month so they are free to screw more stuff up.
I can't imagine how bad things would get if they eliminated icqa.