Archived Are we ready for an emergency situation?

[NKG]

With the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, is Target really prepared for an emergency? I have only heard " Run, Hide, Fight" a handful of times. I wouldn't even know what to do as a leader in the event of one. I'm supposed to save myself 1st and watch it play outside while the store fights for their life??? That doesn't sound morally right. I don't even know what to do if I have a code yellow and we can't find the kid after 20 minutes. No one ever taught me how to file an injury report. Let's hope I never have a code red. Luckily, I know how to use a fire extinguisher but what if I didn't! I think Target needs to invest in a better emergency training program.

 

[Rarejem]

Last year I asked what our active shooter response is when we were discussing fire and tornado response. There is none.

 

[Fix It]

While it’s the company’s responsibility to be making these issues regular training points, you’re able to pick up an emergency flip chart yourself and learn these procedures.

 

[OccidentalAvenue]

You should always have an emergency escape plan prepared for any workplace environment, whether your employer provides you with one or not.

in all honesty, if anything as horrendous as a mass shooting is to break out in any environment, let alone a Target, any form of emergency training is likely going to go out the window. Customers and employees will be screaming, running and even trampling each other to get to safety, and I would honestly suggest you do the same.

Just as in a fire, worry about getting yourself safe first, and let first responders worry about the rest.

Whether or not you want to be morally responsible for securing the safety of your team if you are ever unfortunate enough to find yourself in such a situation is entirely up to you, as I doubt the Target Corporation has any specific guidelines in their employee handbook for such an event.

 

[NKG]

While it’s the company’s responsibility to be making these issues regular training points, you’re able to pick up an emergency flip chart yourself and learn these procedures.

Hold on shooter- I need to flip to page 5....Yeah I read it but it's not an everyday situation so I'm less likely to remember everything

 

[dannyy315]

Really the best thing you can do is know all your emergency exits and make a run for it.

 

[NKG]

You should always have an emergency escape plan prepared for any workplace environment, whether your employer provides you with one or not.

in all honesty, if anything as horrendous as a mass shooting is to break out in any environment, let alone a Target, any form of emergency training is likely going to go out the window. Customers and employees will be screaming, running and even trampling each other to get to safety, and I would honestly suggest you do the same.

Just as in a fire, worry about getting yourself safe first, and let first responders worry about the rest.

Whether or not you want to be morally responsible for securing the safety of your team if you are ever unfortunate enough to find yourself in such a situation is entirely up to you, as I doubt the Target Corporation has any specific guidelines in their employee handbook for such an event.

I get it's my responsibility to find my own exit plan but I don't have military training to fight off a shooter so...

 

[Fix It]

Hold on shooter- I need to flip to page 5....Yeah I read it but it's not an everyday situation so I'm less likely to remember everything

Funnel people to the interior to the sales floor then out of the nearest fire exit. You don’t look at the flip chart as a scene is unfolding, you should have looked at the most plausible scenarios and memorized the major points

 

[NKG]

Funnel people to the interior to the sales floor then out of the nearest fire exit. You don’t look at the flip chart as a scene is unfolding, you should have looked at the most plausible scenarios and memorized the major points

So what person in the state of panic is gonna remember all of that? Just saying.

 

[Fix It]

So what person in the state of panic is gonna remember all of that? Just saying.

It’s basic guidelines, you don’t have to remember every single point. It’s the company’s responsibility to train their TLs but if you feel they aren’t doing enough then by all means speak up.

 

[NKG]

It’s basic guidelines, you don’t have to remember every single point. It’s the company’s responsibility to train their TLs but if you feel they aren’t doing enough then by all means speak up.

Okay now you're getting my point

 

[commiecorvus]

I have a plan from work that I can post.
We train twice a year and have specialists come in to do it.
Since we deal with ... complex situations, the possibility is something we have to keep in mind all the time.
We have a plan just like we do for earthquake and fire evacuation.

 

[SoCalMama]

I get it's my responsibility to find my own exit plan but I don't have military training to fight off a shooter so...

Honestly, I figured out my exit plan on day 1 in 2015 when I got hired. Know where every exit it. If you don't work in the backroom, ask the TMs who do where they would hide. I got some great advice. Apparently, they play hide and seek back there sometimes. Good to know where to hide.

You don't need military training. When it comes down to it, you improvise. Anything that could cause damage will do: can of soup, hammer, etc.

 

[Times Up]

While it’s the company’s responsibility to be making these issues regular training points, you’re able to pick up an emergency flip chart yourself and learn these procedures.

Unfortunately now days Spot has a moral obligation to keep it's employees and shoppers safe. Granted there is a limit to what it CAN do, but sticking his head in the ground is not an option.

Reading a flip chart hardly qualifies as "training".

 

[JAShands]

I'm supposed to save myself 1st and watch it play outside while the store fights for their life??? That doesn't sound morally right. L

Just remember you can’t save anyone if you aren’t safe first. Get behind something, call 911, and then worry about getting everyone else out if you’re in a safe position to do so.

 

[FlowTeamChick]

After the San Bernadino shooting, I started thinking through what I would do - know where the closest emergency exit is, if I'm close to a back room (we have the main one and a couple of smaller ones), how do I usher guests to safety (I hope I'd push others to leave with me, not push them out of the way).
But my real question is, how did we get to a point in our culture where people need to be thinking about this? And schools doing active shooter drills? I'm not looking for a political or 2nd amendment debate here, just saying we're not in a good place on this issue.

 

[Anelmi]

Basically I am a sitting duck in my IGS location right in front of the doors. Lovely.

 

[NKG]

After the San Bernadino shooting, I started thinking through what I would do - know where the closest emergency exit is, if I'm close to a back room (we have the main one and a couple of smaller ones), how do I usher guests to safety (I hope I'd push others to leave with me, not push them out of the way).
But my real question is, how did we get to a point in our culture where people need to be thinking about this? And schools doing active shooter drills? I'm not looking for a political or 2nd amendment debate here, just saying we're not in a good place on this issue.

I really didn't want this to be a political debate but seriously where is the training. I know I should be responsible for my own action plan and training but reading a flip chart doesn't exactly qualify me to handle an emergency situation.

 

[Ringwraith917]

After the San Bernadino shooting, I started thinking through what I would do - know where the closest emergency exit is, if I'm close to a back room (we have the main one and a couple of smaller ones), how do I usher guests to safety (I hope I'd push others to leave with me, not push them out of the way).
But my real question is, how did we get to a point in our culture where people need to be thinking about this? And schools doing active shooter drills? I'm not looking for a political or 2nd amendment debate here, just saying we're not in a good place on this issue.

Blame the internet. The general lack of connectedness between people, communities, family even. In isolation, extreme thoughts aren't held in check by the norm. Combine that with the ability to easily find others who share those thoughts, then that extreme becomes the norm and allows more extreme thoughts to emerge.

 

[slowhands]

We won't get company wide training until there is a mass shooting at a target. Cause we all know the company isn't proactive with many things.

 

[ConfusedCashier]

I think “run, hide, fight” is the best “plan” that can be put in place. Sure target should have an actual plan written down, but at the end of the day I doubt written procedure is what’s on people’s minds. Although maybe the shooter could call corporate and get a $50 gift card for the inconvenience

 

[happygoth]

We had computer training on this at my old job - run, hide, fight is basically it. Run to safety out of the building; if you can't do that, find a place to hide, and if that doesn't work, use whatever you have to fight them off. This isn't like a fire where it's leadership's responsibility to help members and guests to safety - this is basically everyone for themselves.

 

[REDcardJJ]

just in case anyone hasnt seen this

 

[idkwhattodo]

don’t like to give up my location or anything that could hint at it, but i’m close to a store that had an active shooter situation not too long ago. they pretty much just ran to the backroom to hid while a lot of guests evacuated. the gunman never entered the building though... just shots fired outside without any injuries, luckily.

i know a few tms from that store and i don’t believe they ever got additional training or even a convo about it. as one of the stores in the district, we just kind of heard about it and looked up what to do on our own in those flip books.

 

[DBZ]

I'm an advocate. If a shooter comes in, the advocates are on the front lines. You can duck at a register. There are a ton of weapons around you. If you and the guests start launching all the candy at him, he will have difficulty shooting. You could also shake and launch sodas. You can try running. At my store, if I was on a register closer to beauty, I'd be heading for the AP office or 239. Probably 239. I'd try to get others to come with. There are places to hide in there and more weapons. There is also another door leading to a fire hallway/exit.

At GS there are places to hide behind the reshop, but I'd be heading for the closet and I'd barricade the door. Once behind that door, I'd be looking for chemicals such as bug spray or whatever else I could use to cause harm.

There was a safety training recently. Did you do it? I didn't, yet. What was on it? None of this I'm guessing?