Archived Certain workcenters thinking they are better than others

[Flabbergasted]

I don't know if you all have had experience with this at your stores, but at mine there seems to be a certain aura of smugness from one workcenter directed towards others, where said workcenter feels they have a harder and more important job than the rest of the store. At my store, that would be logistics. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate logistics, and I recognize they do a lot of important tasks that I couldn't do. But they think they're the most important; that they tower above everyone else in the store, and the store would much quicker fall apart without them than without other areas.

As a GSA, I find this situation a little toxic. Flow, backroom, etc. are more than happy to discuss why they think the front lanes has the "easiest job in the store" and "does practically nothing," while they are out moving boxes around breaking rock. One logistics TL has even gotten snappy with me on several occasions, as though I were beneath him, and I don't appreciate it.

Does your store have a workcenter (probably logistics) that thinks it's more important than all other workcenters?

 

[IHeartCarts]

Logistics is the best.

 

[Bullselle]

I second that. Logistics is superior. Your argument is invalid.

 

[PinkZinnia]

Flabbergasted why do you think this way? Who is better then who and in another thread I believe you wrote about differences in class (the haves and have nots).

Just worry about you and what you do. You needn't concern yourself about who has what or who thinks they are better. Life is way way to short to worry about what people at target say or do.

And to answer this thread, no I have never noticed any department (work center) thinking they are better than any others, except maybe photo, but he is a work center all by himself. I think it has made him a bit batty.

 

[PinkZinnia]

Oh and pull one of those logistic people onto the front lanes on a weekend or a day before a snowstorm. See how fast they go running to the backroom.

 

[Flabbergasted]

I don't see class divide but I do see workcenter divide. :/

 

[TeamRed]

I don't see that but do see it like high school like cashiers have their cliques and salesfloor has theirs and backroom etc etc.

 

[PinkZinnia]

Flabbergasted. Sorry, that was someone else who was writing about class divide.

 

[SFSFun]

Backroom and flow have pretty physically demanding jobs, and when they see cashiers standing on their padded floor mats and barely moving as they pass by after a long day of running around and lifting boxes, it is easy to understand why some might feel cashiers have it easy.

 

[Bullselle]

Backroom and flow have pretty physically demanding jobs, and when they see cashiers standing on their padded floor mats and barely moving as they pass by after a long day of running around and lifting boxes, it is easy to understand why some might feel cashiers have it easy.

No disrespect to our Logistics Lords, but I do have a counterpoint. Being a cashier can be physically demanding as well. Standing in one place for long periods of time really puts a strain on my feet. Somehow, I find it more physically demanding than walking around the sales floor. That might just be me though.

 

[signingminion]

Pfft. I run circles around logistics. No-literally. Lol.

We do have teams that think they are above answering backup calls, call boxes, etc because their work is more important than yours. I gladly throw them under the bus first chance I have. Especially on opens where the only thing I got fine was cull and sda.

 

[Targetron]

If by "better" you mean having to do manual labor then yes. GSA does have to lift up that walkie quite a few times a day though

 

[Signkitty]

Logistics has to haul heavy stuff around. Front End needs to deal face to face with people. Each job has its ups and downs and downs and what is most important is that everyone work to the best of thier ability.

Oh but seriously signing is most important, what would we do with out decrotive overheads?!?!

 

[zoned2deep]

I don't really get that feeling at my store. The backroom people are pretty grumpy all the time, though.

 

[Mister Bulky]

Does your store have a workcenter (probably logistics) that thinks it's more important than all other workcenters?

This, to me, sounds like you thinking as a GSA you are better than Logistics. You're defeating your own argument by throwing Logistics under the bus.

I have noticed that Logistics gets thrown under the bus by a lot of people on this forum. I've worked on the overnight logistics process as a lowly TM for 16 years. It's difficult sometimes to see how much hate we get by people on here. I put in 10 hours shifts, work my butt off wherever I'm asked to work, whether that's flow, backroom, bulk, or p-fresh. It sucks knowing that people on here, and potentially people who don't know me at my own store, would simply write my effort off like it was nothing because of my workcenter. I have honestly never thought my team was better than any other area. We are all members of the whole store team trying to keep a store afloat. Why hate on others? Does it matter? Every work center has its good points and good people and bad points and bad people.

That being said, it would be nice if people would lay off flow a little bit. We are not the sole cause of your store's problems. We are people, just like you, trying to do a job and keep our heads above water so we can see tomorrow. Instead of complaining about another workcenter, how about trying to understand the challenges of that workcenter, walk a day in their shoes, for example. I have nothing but respect for each and every workcenter Target has....it's all important for the whole to survive and to survive well.

 

[APredux]

Our flow team thinks they are harder workers than the front end because their job is more physical, but in reality if most of them were cashiers or god-help-them GSA's and had to interact with guests more often than cardboard boxes, they would probably change their tune.

 

[asidius]

Our BR team thinks they're better than everyone. They called the front end idiots sometimes and say not to listen to them. Ironically the front end has the highest scores for our store.

 

[signingminion]

This, to me, sounds like you thinking as a GSA you are better than Logistics. You're defeating your own argument by throwing Logistics under the bus.

I have noticed that Logistics gets thrown under the bus by a lot of people on this forum. I've worked on the overnight logistics process as a lowly TM for 16 years. It's difficult sometimes to see how much hate we get by people on here. I put in 10 hours shifts, work my butt off wherever I'm asked to work, whether that's flow, backroom, bulk, or p-fresh. It sucks knowing that people on here, and potentially people who don't know me at my own store, would simply write my effort off like it was nothing because of my workcenter. I have honestly never thought my team was better than any other area. We are all members of the whole store team trying to keep a store afloat. Why hate on others? Does it matter? Every work center has its good points and good people and bad points and bad people.

That being said, it would be nice if people would lay off flow a little bit. We are not the sole cause of your store's problems. We are people, just like you, trying to do a job and keep our heads above water so we can see tomorrow. Instead of complaining about another workcenter, how about trying to understand the challenges of that workcenter, walk a day in their shoes, for example. I have nothing but respect for each and every workcenter Target has....it's all important for the whole to survive and to survive well.

I only blame then for problems I can track to them with my own eyes. But the reality is each of then had their own issues I've seen more than once.

I do stick up for flow a lot. The get de-humanized all the time. And having worked in most with centers and every possible time shift I get the various parts, and how each seems like the hardest when you are in it. Or bunch is loud and messy which hardly endears them.

 

[Backroom22]

Sometimes our GSAs get snappy and rude with me when I am working backroom day. They don't under seem that we have timed goals that we have to reach and want to know why we can't bring items up to the front 3 times in an hour when I am the only person in the backroom and have to pull the CAFs by myself. They get real pissed when I say I can't bring something up so I usually just direct them to speak with the LOD if they have a problem at that point.

 

[Coqui]

That's how I feel at my store sometimes. We get snippy comments from cashiers or other TMs about our job responsibilities( My work center is Starbucks). They think we don't do anything. I would love to see one of them come "cover" a shift with us and see how easy it is for them. We work in a mall so our lines are always out the door. It's always busy so we never have down time to just chit chat like I see most of them do in Dollor Spot.

 

[Flabbergasted]

This, to me, sounds like you thinking as a GSA you are better than Logistics.

Where did I say I thought being GSA was better than working logistics? I was simply pointing out that the logistics team at my store tends to think it's better than me. But they are not, and I am not. We all have an important role to play within the store.

 

[pfreshdude]

No disrespect to our Logistics Lords, but I do have a counterpoint. Being a cashier can be physically demanding as well. Standing in one place for long periods of time really puts a strain on my feet. Somehow, I find it more physically demanding than walking around the sales floor. That might just be me though.

At our store Cashiers have to go out and get a crap ton of carts along with helping carryout if not busy, pitching the redcard to every guest and dealing with difficult guests..might not be as physically demanding but im sure its alot more mentally or emotionally draining/demanding. Im a PA and I would much rather do any logistics position than the front end.

Also I see a lot of my logistics team talking and talking and talking all the time at different parts of the day, Backroom, Flow, doesnt matter

If anyone wants to know the most demanding workcenter/position its PA and Market, especially when Target doesnt support you at all, your hours get slashed, you have to help other workcenters constantly but receive no help, and yet the expectations are set higher than alot of other workcenters

Heres one example...we didnt have a closer scheduled today in market..shift didnt get cut or a call out, just nobody scheduled and im only there til 1:30 and had to backstock 2 vehicles of produce from C+S yesterday so when the C+S truck comes in today for staging product I have room, pull ALL my own autofills and work them, and when I get back from lunch I have to receive C+S, do the order, and set as many salesplans as I can because "plano is behind"

 

[Retail Girl]

At my store, it's the process teams who sometimes seem to think they are above helping guests. They have been known to call for someone to come help a guest in a department they are stsnding in the middle of instead of doing it themselves. But the LODs have no problem getting on the Walkie and nicely telling them to do it themselves, since there is no one else on the salesfloor.

 

[Backroom81]

I second that. Logistics is superior. Your argument is invalid.

Quoting for emphasis.

 

[Andosphere]

Having worked in all centers.. yes. Although its's only 1-2 people who completely blow it out of proportion!