Archived Getting coached for calling off.

[Lilith]

Oh geez, now I'm worried about going back to work on friday. I was in extreme pain on Tuesday and had to close that night, but I ended up calling in and having to go to the doctor. When I called the LOD said "make sure you bring a doctor's note, I know they're really cracking down on those right now."
So I got my doctor's note but she said I can't go to work until today (which is actually my day off) so I had to call out yesterday, which I had another doctor's appointment and got a note for as well.

One LOD (who I absolutely hate) already coached me when I asked him gor more hours and saw I left early a few days because I wasn't feeling well (due to exhaustion, dehydration, and ovarian cysts that decided to pop up) and I felt lije if I didn't go home they'd have to call another ambulance for a TM within a weeks time.

I hope I don't getting a coaching for being unwell :/ that would kind of suck.

 

[Tessa120]

Oh geez, now I'm worried about going back to work on friday. I was in extreme pain on Tuesday and had to close that night, but I ended up calling in and having to go to the doctor. When I called the LOD said "make sure you bring a doctor's note, I know they're really cracking down on those right now."
So I got my doctor's note but she said I can't go to work until today (which is actually my day off) so I had to call out yesterday, which I had another doctor's appointment and got a note for as well.

One LOD (who I absolutely hate) already coached me when I asked him gor more hours and saw I left early a few days because I wasn't feeling well (due to exhaustion, dehydration, and ovarian cysts that decided to pop up) and I felt lije if I didn't go home they'd have to call another ambulance for a TM within a weeks time.

I hope I don't getting a coaching for being unwell :/ that would kind of suck.

Check and see if you medically qualify for FMLA. You don't have to take a 3 month block of time off, you can take your 12 weeks hours at a time by letting your store know in advance you need the day or a few hours off for a doctor's appointment that couldn't wait for 3 weeks out for a scheduled day off, or calling out on FMLA leave if you are too sick that day to work or leaving early if you can't finish your shift. FMLA is job protection, and if you are on FMLA but still working there can't be any disciplinary actions for attendance or retaliation for using FMLA. You just have to make clear that you are calling out on FMLA so they do the paperwork right for that absence.

 

[Lilith]

Check and see if you medically qualify for FMLA. You don't have to take a 3 month block of time off, you can take your 12 weeks hours at a time by letting your store know in advance you need the day or a few hours off for a doctor's appointment that couldn't wait for 3 weeks out for a scheduled day off, or calling out on FMLA leave if you are too sick that day to work or leaving early if you can't finish your shift. FMLA is job protection, and if you are on FMLA but still working there can't be any disciplinary actions for attendance or retaliation for using FMLA. You just have to make clear that you are calling out on FMLA so they do the paperwork right for that absence.

Unfortunantly, I don't qualify for FMLA. I haven't been there a year or worked the 1200+ hours to qualify for it. But I've told every LOD about my health problems and that if a cyst were to rupture I'd more than likely be out of comission for a day or two. So they all knew about my health problem. We just have one LOD who's a total dipshit and said to me "I can into work extremely close to strep throat and still was here as the closing LOD". (Which I wanted to point out so bad that it's not okay to do that.) So he thinks no one has an excuse to not come to work if they're sick. All the other LOD's understand except him. So hopefully they don't try to coach me on it.
Thank you for your advice though! I really appreciate it!

 

[IWishIKnew]

extremely close to strep throat

WTF does this even mean? Either you have strep or you don't.

 

[Lilith]

WTF does this even mean? Either you have strep or you don't.

I honestly have no idea, the guy is a total dipshit. He said they did a strep test but it came back negative but they still gave him the strep medicine because it could develop into strep. I don't get why he would still be coming into work with something infectious like that. Just stay home or you'll get your TM's and "guests" sick.

 

[Fluttervale]

Have you looked into the ADA? I don't know if it would apply for ovarian cysts but something to research.

 

[Lilith]

Have you looked into the ADA? I don't know if it would apply for ovarian cysts but something to research.

The only way I'd qualify for disability is if I was diagnosed with endometriosis or PCOS and they brought it up at my ultrasound, but never really talked more about it. I do know I'll probably have to take a LOA sometime in the near future for surgery because I have a cyst a little bigger than my ovary that is the type that doesn't rupture or go away on it's own, so that'll be fun. But I'll definantly talk to my HR and see what she thinks about it. Thanks for the advice! I'll definantly keep researching it and see if I can find anything.

 

[BullseyeBlues]

Ooo, @Lilith I literally feel your pain there. Have had ovarian cysts in the past. I would ask your gyno about an official diagnosis especially if they’re to the size where surgery may be required, and especially if they happen fairly frequently.

 

[Melissa74]

I am on fmla and I have to call in daily so today I called in almost an hour late will I get in trouble

 

[Lilith]

Ooo, @Lilith I literally feel your pain there. Have had ovarian cysts in the past. I would ask your gyno about an official diagnosis especially if they’re to the size where surgery may be required, and especially if they happen fairly frequently.

I definantly will, I have to go back Thursday to talk about it and I'm going to bring it up and see what she says. They're definantly no fun.

 

[Breakeven]

ASANTS. At my store, we would just take down the reason that you gave us and makes a note of it on your time card. When we pull your attendance, it will say, "car accident," next to your absence.

No, sick time cannot be applied to these types of situations.

I was able to find this document on Ehr and I had a talk with my STL. If I use sick time to cover a call off, all I have to do is let my ETL-HR know that I used sick time and I won't get coached by my leaders. I am relieved.

 

[Lilith]

I talked to the LOD last night about how I had to call out on Tuesday and Wednesday and I told hime I have a doctor's appointment this thursday and I can't reschedual it and I won't be able to come in. His response was basically "that's your problem not mine" told me I had to get the shift covered and he won't do anything to help. He also pretty much told me that he's going to be cutting my hours because of my medical emergancy call outs and having to leave early a few days because of the pain I was in and how sick I felt. This LOD is the absolute worst and makes me dread going to work and makes me feel awful about myself. He has zero compassion for what I went/am going through. He doesn't even see us as people.
I've asked everyone to take that shift and no one can. So I'm probably going to talk to my HR and see if that gets me anywhere. If not I'll be calling out on Thursday. This is ridiculous.
There's my ranty update.

 

[Tessa120]

Before anyone says to @Lilith that she should have requested the day off keep in mind that doctors schedule according to their convenience not yours, especially specialists. It's not unusual for a doctor's office to call you and say "We've had a cancellation, we can fit you in next Tuesday, otherwise the next appointment is in three months." If you are seriously sick or in pain, a) would you pass up the appointment and suffer 3 additional months, b) would you be willing to risk your health on the gamble that waiting three months won't make the problem significantly worse?

 

[can't touch this]

You would think as much as doctors charge and are paid they'd offer 24/7 personalized in-home service, but alas that service level is reserved for Congressmen and the Illuminati

 

[BullseyeBlues]

@Lilith if HR can’t or refuses to help you with this LOD, this is a hotline situation if I ever heard one. You have tried to give them as much advance notice as possible and seem to be a play by the rules, get it covered type. You shouldn’t have to deal with this sort of treatment from your leadership.

 

[Lilith]

@Lilith if HR can’t or refuses to help you with this LOD, this is a hotline situation if I ever heard one. You have tried to give them as much advance notice as possible and seem to be a play by the rules, get it covered type. You shouldn’t have to deal with this sort of treatment from your leadership.

I plan on talking to my ETLHR tomorrow if I cant get it sorted out myself. I also plan on calling my OB today and see if they have an earlier appointment time available that day at all and try to work it out. If that doesn't work then I will be talking to my HR and letting her know. The other side of all this is that there's something else added to the appointment that I wasnt ready to tell anyone yet until after that appointment or later, but it seems like I'll have to tell them sooner than I wanted to.
Does the hotline actually do anything? I've read that it's just there as a peace of mind type thing for TM's but it never actually does anything. I've thought about calling the hotline about this LOD for a while.
Thank you everyone for the advice. I really appreciate it. It's really been worrying me and stressing me out.

 

[Thunderbird1956]

I coach for every callout unless there is a doctor's note. I make sure that if they are a rare callout that I tell them I don't expect them to callout again, but that I want to hold everyone to the same standard. If I'm going to have to tell 5 people the same thing every week I will.

 

[Greenie]

I coach for every callout unless there is a doctor's note. I make sure that if they are a rare callout that I tell them I don't expect them to callout again, but that I want to hold everyone to the same standard. If I'm going to have to tell 5 people the same thing every week I will.

Coach with PDD? Or just “coaching”?

Coaching with PDD for a random call out won’t fly at my store. HR won’t key it.

 

[Thunderbird1956]

@Greenie PDD I write it up and submit. If they don't key it then it's in them, but I keep a record of them if their performance turns it shows a history.

 

[Yetive]

Coach with PDD? Or just “coaching”?

Coaching with PDD for a random call out won’t fly at my store. HR won’t key it.

@Greenie PDD I write it up and submit. If they don't key it then it's in them, but I keep a record of them if their performance turns it shows a history.

With Workday, it won't matter if HR keys it. You initiate and it goes in the tm file.

 

[Tessa120]

I coach for every callout unless there is a doctor's note. I make sure that if they are a rare callout that I tell them I don't expect them to callout again, but that I want to hold everyone to the same standard. If I'm going to have to tell 5 people the same thing every week I will.

Wow, talk about jerkish. Small child has a fever of 101, but you expect the person to leave the kid to avoid being coached. Person has their own fever of 101 and the fever delirium makes it unsafe to drive to the doctor but you expect serious impaired driving and high risk of accident to avoid being coached. The car breaks down on the way to work, better just lock it and hitchhike with a random stranger and after work pay for release from whatever tow yard the police sent it, or get coached. Day care provider cancels for the day, leave the little ones home illegally or get coached.

 

[Thunderbird1956]

Wow, talk about jerkish. Small child has a fever of 101, but you expect the person to leave the kid to avoid being coached. Person has their own fever of 101 and the fever delirium makes it unsafe to drive to the doctor but you expect serious impaired driving and high risk of accident to avoid being coached. The car breaks down on the way to work, better just lock it and hitchhike with a random stranger and after work pay for release from whatever tow yard the police sent it, or get coached. Day care provider cancels for the day, leave the little ones home illegally or get coached.

Yup, do you have any idea how long it takes to get someone to a CCA from PDDs? If it's not job abandonment it has to go through HRBP so the TM notations that it was for a child etc make a difference. I'm going to treat everyone the same, because I've done PDD coachings for over 6 months once a week and still not had HRBP approve it.

They will roll off after 1 year even though the paperwork says 2 years.

 

[Tessa120]

Yup, do you have any idea how long it takes to get someone to a CCA from PDDs? If it's not job abandonment it has to go through HRBP so the TM notations that it was for a child etc make a difference. I'm going to treat everyone the same, because I've done PDD coachings for over 6 months once a week and still not had HRBP approve it.

They will roll off after 1 year even though the paperwork says 2 years.

I hope that you have to call out due to emergency circumstances or due to an illness where seeing a doctor just wasn't possible, and you receive formal disciplinary action, and that formal disciplinary action causes professional issues...just like what you are doing to everyone else.

 

[Leo47]

I coach for every callout unless there is a doctor's note. I make sure that if they are a rare callout that I tell them I don't expect them to callout again, but that I want to hold everyone to the same standard. If I'm going to have to tell 5 people the same thing every week I will.

Dude this is barely above minimum wage retail this job is really not that serious

 

[Kartman]

Minimum wage is a LOT lower than 12 bucks. Seriously.