Archived NYC store robbed at Gunpoint

[zer0nhand]

Armed robbers steal approximately $50,000 from Target in NYC - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc.com/news/armed-robbers-steal-approximately-000-from-target-nyc/6WgCVQMC9twShR5mnW2vVL/amp.html

Smh.

 

[Kartman]

Sounds fishy.

 

[RTCry]

“Authorities said the manager was counting the money in the safe when two men allegedly forced their way into his office. The men allegedly showed the manager a gun, pushed him aside and fled with the money, ABC reported.”

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[zer0nhand]

That a manager huh... LMAO

 

[Kaitii]

at 8:20am? why would a "manager" be counting money in c/o at 8:20am

how did the thieves know where/what c/o is

what even

 

[HLN13]

Probably former TM’s. And more likely then anything by manager they mean GSA. We often still have GSA’s counting at 8:20, especially on Mondays after busy Sundays there's A lot to count.

 

[OneArmedJesus]

the source doesn't know what Target positions are obviously, and most likely a inside job

 

[redeye58]

I'm sure the cameras will tell a different story.
The only way they could 'force their way in' is for the person inside to open the door.
My CO had a CC camera trained on the outside of the door in addition to a peephole so there's no excuse to open a door blindly.
We were also taught to NEVER open the door to anyone unless an ETL was with them so this sounds wrong on several levels.

 

[Kartman]

Isn't there a reason it's called a "man trap?"

 

[redeye58]

Older store; we don't have a man trap.
Some of the newer ones I helped at do have 'em.

 

[REDcardJJ]

this is sketchy, just thinking about the layout of my store you'd have to get into the TSC, past AP, and then find a way into the cash office (which is the most suspicious part!!!)

 

[Yetive]

What is a man trap?

Anyone with a code can get in at my store.

 

[redeye58]

Many newer stores have a double door system into CO: an exterior door leading into a small room with the interior door leading into the actual CO.
There's usually CC cameras & a peephole & you never open the interior door unless the exterior door has been closed.
Both door are code-locked with a key override.

 

[HardlinesFour]

I love how the article says "Manhattan"... that's the Bronx, huge difference, and a much sketchier area. Also - I'm fairly sure the store had a secured vestibule/man trap.

 

[SFSFun]

100% an inside job. Even putting aside the fact that they somehow managed to get into the CO, it can't possibly be a coincidence that they did it in the middle of the CO shift, when the safe was open.

Also, what dumbass told a reporter how much was stolen? There's a reason these kinds of stories almost always say "an undisclosed amount." It could give other criminals the idea to rob other Targets if they think they can make off with so much money.

 

[EagleEye]

I can't wait to watch this video

 

[WinterRose]

Ours have money locked in the bag area of one of the registers. It's where they get the money when cashiers or starbucks requested for cash. Maybe that's the safe the article was talking about? I sometimes see our GSTL counting it in the morning.

 

[On6]

Inside job.

I don’t work in the NYC area, but from what I do know of the area is most of those stores are very high volume, along with high risk/high theft.

Pretty sure that store would’ve had some sort of “airlock system” in place leading to the CO. Meaning one door, then a hallway/vestibule, then another door. At no point should both doors be opened at the same time.

And this really isn’t a new stores have it and old stores don’t. My first store I worked at was pretty old and had this sort of set up. Many large retailers use it.

 

[On6]

Ours have money locked in the bag area of one of the registers. It's where they get the money when cashiers or starbucks requested for cash. Maybe that's the safe the article was talking about? I sometimes see our GSTL counting it in the morning.

That drawer or safe at the registers wouldn’t have $50k in it. And if for some reason it does, your store is seriously screwing up.

 

[redeye58]

Ours have money locked in the bag area of one of the registers. It's where they get the money when cashiers or starbucks requested for cash. Maybe that's the safe the article was talking about? I sometimes see our GSTL counting it in the morning.

That's the cash advance fund for registers.
Even in a high vol super it certainly wouldn't have that amount.
Our store is A+ but our safe wouldn't keep that high a balance even before deposit but our store does more credit/debit transactions than cash.
I agree: inside job all the way.

 

[redeye58]

What is a man trap?

Pretty sure that store would’ve had some sort of “airlock system” in place leading to the CO. Meaning one door, then a hallway/vestibule, then another door. At no point should both doors be opened at the same time.

 

[unknown]

It could have been former tms, but that doesn't mean it's an inside job.

 

[redeye58]

Then they have a clod working in CO because only an idiot would open the door to someone they don't know while counting tens of thousands of dollars.
When I was in CO I wasn't even allowed to admit the armored courier without an ETL escort, EVEN if he/she had a bag of money.

 

[On6]

It could have been former tms, but that doesn't mean it's an inside job.

Like I said before, the double door setup is pretty common amongst large retailers. So that’s something a criminal would probably know of, as would former TMs.

What’s not widely known is when exactly that safe would be opened at that particular store, on that particular day. Also the doors leading to the cash office are typically reinforced. Even if there was only one door (which I doubt), those guys would’ve made a bunch of noise trying to “force” their way in.

Another article I saw states the amount was actually $145,000. So the details aren’t concrete. But I’ve been around security and law enforcement long enough to know that the “manager” they mention would be the first suspect.

 

[qmosqueen]

a good reason to get the fuck out and quit.