Archived Would you like to see an "open" target

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think walmart but much much nicer. Open ceilings with skylights and stained flooring.

I don't know how that would look to be honest. Lots of red paint though.:wacko:
 

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I really dig walmarts skylights and flooring. I think Target needs to move away from some of the things that have been considered brand for a loong time. I think the shiny white floors are so poorly maintained by the cleaning companies it doesn't look good anymore, lose it. I cringe at our tube neon lighting on the walls ,which, maybe in the newest store they have done away with? So outdated... The walmart sky ceiling is really neat!!!!
 
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i've noticed over the years that you feel like complete (#*$ after spending about 8 hours in a stuffy, stale, target store. Those floor cleaners put off so much exhaust and now that this thread mentions it, it's pretty claustrophobic. I noticed during our p-fresh remodel, when the fire doors were open, standing next to them was like walking into a casino being pumped full of oxygen.
 
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I like the look we have, but I'm in a remodeled p-fresh store that got new flooring and ditched thneons in favor of a sleek new paint job. I don't like the warehouse vibe I get from Walmart or Sam's club.

Spot brand when done right looks very modern and appealing. I like it.
 

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Ive seen targets with skylights already. Not sure what you mean by open celing, like so you can see all the pipes and electrical stuff?

What Target has skylights? I'm talking about the sales floor, not backroom

The pipes and electrical are normally tucked away

I really dig walmarts skylights and flooring. I think Target needs to move away from some of the things that have been considered brand for a loong time. I think the shiny white floors are so poorly maintained by the cleaning companies it doesn't look good anymore, lose it. I cringe at our tube neon lighting on the walls ,which, maybe in the newest store they have done away with? So outdated... The walmart sky ceiling is really neat!!!!

From what I remember Neons were ditched in the p fresh remodels

Then again how many of you even seen a new walmart before?





or a market

 

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At the last target I worked at we had a interior garden center.... that was the only part of the store that was open ceiling. From a AP's perspective the open ceiling makes it harder for camera domes to see aisles. While with the drop down ceilings the domes can be better angled and adjusted from time to time.

On a interesting note, when I became a cashier at that garden center store. I was told our biggest loss wasn't theft at our store but was from dead plants that went unsold for so long. I'm not at all surprised that target got rid of all of them.

Here's a glimpse I found of a store still using that garden center space. Just a few ideas of what it might look like.
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4032/4427850365_9d9dc4ac59_o.jpg
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4013/4427850089_b453068218_o.jpg
 

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^I dunno. Rather than looking open & airy, it looks rather industrial/factory-ish.

True, but I think it also depends on the age if the buliding. Like AP215 links, or some old Costcos it really depends on how it looks. We have an old costco that is dark and ugly inside, but anew one that opened in 2005 that is bright and doesnt look half bad in side

just depends on how they designed it, if the buliding was used prevously etc
 
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I really dig walmarts skylights and flooring. I think Target needs to move away from some of the things that have been considered brand for a loong time. I think the shiny white floors are so poorly maintained by the cleaning companies it doesn't look good anymore, lose it. I cringe at our tube neon lighting on the walls ,which, maybe in the newest store they have done away with? So outdated... The walmart sky ceiling is really neat!!!!

Uh, I'd rather work at a faux Department store than some mangy warehouse setting like the ones Walmart and Freddy's punch out. Not to mention, those drop tile ceilings are a god send in noise absorption. It sounds deafening all the time in Wal-mart.
 

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I have to agree with Darikona. The drop ceilings we have are a lot nicer looking than a warehouse/industrial setting. The pictures ap215 posted honestly just felt wrong for Target because that is not who we are...
 

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I personally don't like Walmarts industrial look. But I would like to see Target have more windows or natural light. But I know having a store with little to no windows is retail strategy to keep people from realizing how much time they spend in the store.
 
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I also don't like that industrial look of Walmart. We have a supercenter that was built only 5 years ago. I do shop there, mainly for generic pop (seriously we need a Target brand cheap pop), but I get a bit overwhelmed by the sheer size of the place and it's a little disconcerting when a cloud goes over and the place goes dark. Still, it would be nice to have a few skylights, especially in back seasonal and the fitting room areas. Open ceilings such as a sky dome that can be retracted would be awful. We already have trouble with birds coming in the front doors, having holes in the ceiling would bring more wildlife in. Plus, the place is not very well air conditioned as it is now, an open ceiling would make that worse.
 

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The WM I work at is 155,000 SQ. (opened two years ago) The Target I worked at was only around 90,000 (opened in the 80s) and I think that was just sales floor space. Whats funny is while we are one of the smallest Supercenters in the region, we are the top one for sales.
 

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I work at a Walmart Supercenter that opened last year. (There can be a difference compared to new stores from even four years ago.) I do agree that the tiles help with the sound (as we moved from an old Walmart that had the drop down tile ceiling, and it was quieter.) I am guessing that Walmart would say they do so because of the cost savings, EDLC (Every Day Low Costs) leads to EDLP (Every Day Low Prices for our customers.) :pfft: Anyway, I like the skylights. Even with with "Dynamic Lighting" as I like to call the clouds and skylights, I enjoy the natural light as opposed to the fluorescents all day (I think of being in school with those lights.) I guess at the end of the day, I don't look up all that much anyway, so I have gotten used to it. I also hate tile floors. Many of the old Walmart's have white tile floor, even some of the supercenters and it just looks so bad. I understand the reflectivity effect they have, but they get so scuffed and just looked worse. I definitely prefer the cement and wood floors that stores now have. Some other strange things have happened too.

When we opened our new store, we were built during the "Project Impact" time at Walmart. What I hear is that we hired a bunch of former Target Marketing people to help us with our image as a company as a whole. With this, we cleared out our Action Alley (The main track around the store) no more displays in the middle of the main aisles. We also have a store where the Pharmacy is also close to where your Pharmacy in Supercenters is. (Kind of in the middle of the store on the grocery side.) We then also had areas of the store where the side-counters were not as high. In the shoes and the pets area (Think of the height of your shoes side-counters.) Well, turns out, we had a lot of lost sales. Our profits went down quite a bit as a company. Thus the death of project impact. Back come the tall side-counters in pets and shoes, and back come the pallets in the middle of Action Alley. I myself loathed the return, as I think it does look messier. (But the sales are higher) Anyway, because our store was built during the Target-Style-Era (if you will) we had narrower main aisles to begin with (Why build the aisles wide if there are not going to be pallets in them?) So we had to remove a four-foot section from each and every side-counter on the Action Alley to make room for the pallets. Talk about dumb. But, live and learn...
 
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All the more reason to stick with "what you are known for" & this just proves it.
When Target & Walmart try to be too much alike, they both end up losing. I shop both places because of what they offer/what the other doesn't have.
 

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All the more reason to stick with "what you are known for" & this just proves it.
When Target & Walmart try to be too much alike, they both end up losing. I shop both places because of what they offer/what the other doesn't have.

I still shop at Target. Most of the items are much better quality and I still get that 5% off via the red card.
 

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Ditto to the last two posts. I like the design of many things Target (I just bought my plate sets from Target, Room Essentials) while I will buy everything Great Value brand for food from Walmart.
 

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Ditto to the last two posts. I like the design of many things Target (I just bought my plate sets from Target, Room Essentials) while I will buy everything Great Value brand for food from Walmart.

GV brand isn't that bad to be honest. Better the maystays home crap :bad:

Didn't Walmarts old CEO used to work for Target? I remember reading something like that and that was the cause of the short removal of the action ally items and the target like banner signs and deparment separators (You'll need to be in a new or remodeled store to know what I mean)
 

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I personally don't mind the open air style, but it isn't what Target is known for. If the floors aren't up to snuff then your Cleaning Crew needs to have some workorders put in place and take care of those concerns. One thing I can say is the drop ceiling style is much more economical from a heating/cooling standpoint, and with Target's big "green" push these last few years, I don't expect this to change.
 
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Drop ceilings also add to the air of cleanliness or brightness. Not to mention, overhead graphics would probably be visually washed out from the rafters and piping in open air formats.
 
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