45 not allowed in target cafe

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Pardon the fact im using food ave..

I was told that I am no longer allowed to eat at food ave on my 45 break. Which I find messed up..
I've worked for target for 5the years and in 2the stores and have never heard anything like this.. so I was wondering if this is for anyone else as well.
 
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Are you bringing your own food or buying it from them?

If you're bringing your own, then they are just being jerks.

If you're buying it from them, then that's totally nuts.
 
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I buy the chicken. With 2 other teammembers. Apparently its bc of perception.. but if im off the clock they have no right to tell me where I can eat right?

-sidenote-
This ia in NY.
 
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I've been told that no matter what break it is (15, 45, whatever) that you can't take it in food avenue. I honestly think it's very wrong of them to do when you buy something from them but they claim it's an issue of perception, which I really don't get. The kind of guest that's upset about a TM taking his or her breaking in food avenue, not causing a ruckus or chatting it up with other TMs (to be clear), is the kind of guest I'm not sure I even want.

Yes I'm aware of the break room, and I use it consistently. However I don't feel like it's necessary to walk all of my items over there when I shouldn't have to. Eh, whatever.
 
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I buy the chicken. With 2 other teammembers. Apparently its bc of perception.. but if im off the clock they have no right to tell me where I can eat right?

-sidenote-
This ia in NY.
Well, yeah, they do have the right to tell you where you can eat.

On or off of the clock, they're still your employer and it's their store.

That said, I think it's utterly moronic, especially if you're an employee who is also a paying customer.

It's also a total contradiction to what I saw when I interviewed with Target.

I was sitting in their Starbucks waiting on someone to come get me for the interview and not only did I see multiple employees taking their breaks, I saw two who were all over each other.

They were hugging, kissing, laughing, feeding each other, etc.
 
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I know, specifically in my situation, it has reduced my purchasing of items from them. The whole situation left a bad taste in my mouth and I realize after the fact that the stuff is kind of gross and I should be eating better, so it worked out better for me anyway.
 
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Its situations like that that made me grateful for the 1 hour paid lunch that I get now... or the fact that I can eat at my desk whenever I want. Target treats/treated us like crap. The lack of logic I saw in that place was crazy.

At my old store we had to take a lunch out of sight as well, same with breaks.
 
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My store wouldn't let us use Food Ave for breaks and I worked overnight.
Yet they let the ETLs have their meetings there. Guess they weren't too concerned about guest perception of that, especially since you looked right at Food Ave when you were being rung up at the check lanes.
 
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My store doesn't care if you eat in food ave, but anywhere else (Besides breakroom) is a big no no... Watched the grocery TL hardcore coach one of my cashiers for eating and talking to a friend on the Checklanes during her break.
 
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My store doesn't care if you eat in food ave, but anywhere else (Besides breakroom) is a big no no... Watched the grocery TL hardcore coach one of my cashiers for eating and talking to a friend on the Checklanes during her break.
Well that makes more sense, that's not a designated eating area. Food ave tables/chairs area is for that, so I'm kind of confused as to why TMs aren't allowed to sit there. I remember it used to make me feel kind of inferior, because the TLs and ETLs would often status there.
 
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When I spend $5 for a coffee at Starbucks, I will drink it in a clean, quiet enviroment. I figure that is part of the price. Our breakroom is filled with Target posters, Target books and its dirty and noisy. I want to sit in quiet and chill. I would never sit in there when it is busy. I also always take my namebadge off. When I am not being paid by Target (off the clock) they cannot tell me me not to sit in that area. I did place a call to integrity on this issue and suddenly it was fine for everyone to eat at Food Cafe or Starbucks while not on the clock.
 

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When I spend $5 for a coffee at Starbucks, I will drink it in a clean, quiet enviroment. I figure that is part of the price. Our breakroom is filled with Target posters, Target books and its dirty and noisy. I want to sit in quiet and chill. I would never sit in there when it is busy. I also always take my namebadge off. When I am not being paid by Target (off the clock) they cannot tell me me not to sit in that area. I did place a call to integrity on this issue and suddenly it was fine for everyone to eat at Food Cafe or Starbucks while not on the clock.
sounds like our breakroom at Walmart though it is most of the time quiet. We get an hour unpaid lunch and two 15 minunte paid breaks. I spend the breaks in the breakroom but lunch I eirther eat it at subway (store doesn't care, plus lunch is at 2am so the store is dead anyway) or I eat outside on the bench. I like it. Quiet and peaceful .

But you guys get a 45 min lunch now?


When I worked for spot the rules were like the guy posted above. You could not eat at food ave. Bad thing was our breakroom was upstairs, so it was a pain having to use the stairs (even more so since they didnt place restrooms up there)
 

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We can take any break at the cafe as long as you take your badge off. Lots of our guests also wear red and khaki so if you don't have the badge on you just look like a guest.
 

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When it's a day we are scheduled, we have to take breaks/lunches "off-stage" in the breakroom. If we are off for the day, THEN we can eat at FA &, yeh, our leadership has their little AM coffee klatch there...
 
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Okay, this is something I'd take up with the ETL-HR, because I assure you it is not in any official Target documentation. Everyone in my store eats at that Cafe, for the most part, because the break room is at a ridiculously inconvenient location. Given that I have personally read most of the "best practice" guidelines for each workstation (I'm anal like that), and never seen this little tidbit, I call bull************.

Basically, if it's not an official Target brand policy, there is no way they can enforce it. By firing you or otherwise. If they do try? That's an integrity issue, in my book.
 
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Well that makes more sense, that's not a designated eating area. Food ave tables/chairs area is for that, so I'm kind of confused as to why TMs aren't allowed to sit there. I remember it used to make me feel kind of inferior, because the TLs and ETLs would often status there.
I think you may have just hit on the explainable for why they're doing this.

Managers can hang out there but mere mortals can't.

I used to work at a store that had a policy of no food, drink or tobacco allowed on the sales floor and yet every morning, the store manager and/or district manager would do a store walk, while carrying cups of coffee.

They however didn't care at all where we took our breaks/lunches.

Sometimes I spent my breaks just wandering around the store.

This is the first I've ever heard of a store telling employees that they can't be in a food service area while on their break.
 
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I would think that "most" stores/states do 30 min lunches. Not 1 hour. Am I way off on that?
I don't know.

I'm no expert in labor law, I just know what has been the practice at stores I've worked at, which have all been in the same state.

Here there's also a caveat regarding the size of the store.

I've mostly worked in convenience stores and in that environment, breaks are catch as you can and lunches are non-existent.

Larger stores generally give you an hour for lunch and I'm assuming there's some legal requirement to do so or otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

My understanding is they have to give you 35 minutes but they err on the side of caution and give you an hour.

Again, I'm not a labor attorney, but that is my understanding.
 
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I don't know.

I'm no expert in labor law, I just know what has been the practice at stores I've worked at, which have all been in the same state.

Here there's also a caveat regarding the size of the store.

I've mostly worked in convenience stores and in that environment, breaks are catch as you can and lunches are non-existent.

Larger stores generally give you an hour for lunch and I'm assuming there's some legal requirement to do so or otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

My understanding is they have to give you 35 minutes but they err on the side of caution and give you an hour.

Again, I'm not a labor attorney, but that is my understanding.

I know some (NOT all) labor laws vary based on # of employees, so that explains some of what you've experienced but I believe your state is rare in the hour lunch thing. Most Target stores, in most states, give a 30 min lunch, as required by law.
 
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I know some (NOT all) labor laws vary based on # of employees, so that explains some of what you've experienced but I believe your state is rare in the hour lunch thing. Most Target stores, in most states, give a 30 min lunch, as required by law.
Well, it may not be MY state, it could just be stores I've worked at that erred on the side of caution.

It could also be they were following the KISS principle and so following the law in whichever state had the most strenuous law.

All I know is what my personal experience has been and what I've been told when I was in supervisory positions and that was, after 5 hours, you have to either kick them loose or give them an hour lunch.

I've also been told that I HAD to take an hour lunch, when my personal preference would have been to finish what I was doing and go home.

Whether that is state law or just the policy of the stores I've worked for is something I don't know.
 
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So, I did a bit of Googling.

From a quick read it would seem that actual state law here is they have to give you a 30 minute lunch after you've worked 6 hours.

As I said before, the stores I've worked for have either been erring on the side of caution or taking the law from another state and applying it across the board.
 
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What is this... I don't even...
LOL. 35 and 45 seem to be getting used interchangeably. No clue where the 1 hour is coming from. Target does 30 minute unpaid lunches every 5 or 6 hours (dependent upon the state.) Ta da. Easy as that. I'm not picking on you Southern, I'm just making some corrections to misinformation you may be seeing online.
 
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LOL. 35 and 45 seem to be getting used interchangeably. No clue where the 1 hour is coming from. Target does 30 minute unpaid lunches every 5 or 6 hours (dependent upon the state.) Ta da. Easy as that. I'm not picking on you Southern, I'm just making some corrections to misinformation you may be seeing online.
What is there to correct?

What I've seen online is the state of Tennessee requires a 30 minute lunch.

My own PERSONAL experience is stores tend to give an hour lunch.

My GUESS would be, they are doing that because they want to make sure they are in compliance and they may have stores in other states that have a different requirement and so they are following the KISS principle.

Likewise, the state LAW is you have to take a lunch at the six hour mark.

I've however worked for more than one store than had a policy of an hour lunch after five hours and I've PERSONALLY copped written reprimands, both for not taking a lunch myself and for not giving someone else a lunch.

Don't tell me this is "misinformation" I've seen online.

It is my own personal experience, as a cashier, as a stock clerk and as low level manager.
 
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We were asked not to just for the simple fact that guests used to complain about team members sitting around while the check lanes would back up. They didn't care that they were off the clock, they just saw them sitting around doing nothing.
 

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Thats when you wear something over the red or take off your red shirt (assuming you have something underneath it of course)
 
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Some customers are morons.

That's not a legitimate reason to tell your people they can't go take their break in a food service area.

One time, I actually wasn't on break, I was on the clock, I was working the deli front, which wasn't even my job, I was just doing it for a couple of weeks because they were short of help.

Anyway, I was standing out in the dining area, which was at the most 20 feet from the deli, talking to a friend of mine who was on her break, while keeping an eye out for any customers.

This shriveled up old hag came up to the deli, walked the length of the deli and kept on going.

That wasn't unusual at all.

We had multiple self serve coolers plus some people would just walk by looking to see what we had to offer.

Well, the hag then went and complained.

In her version of events, she stood there and stood there but couldn't get anybody to help her and I wouldn't help her because I was talking to some "sweet young thing."

That's an exact quote, at least as it was relayed to me by the manager she complained to.

One, she could have said something to me or just gestured to me and I would have helped her.

Two, the "sweet young thing" I was talking to was about 45.

Three, as I said, customers are morons. That's not a reason to tell team members they can't take their breaks in an area where customers are allowed to eat and drink.
 
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Under 18 in my state, you get 45 min break. The p-fresh get 30 min lunch off the clock, then take their paid 15 min. So that, they can do the food Order faster.
 

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First, whats the reason for a 45 minute break...

For the FA issue.
Its not a company policy. It is usually instituted by the store itself, and yes it is perception. I know at my old store it was common for some TMs to take their lunches at FA as long as there was enough sitting for guests to use. Then there was an incident where a group of Flow TMs were eating at FA, and a guest complained she couldn't find a TM on the floor. Then pointed to the group at FA.

The aftermath ended up being that ETLs decided to ask TMs to wear other shirts or jackets that way they couldn't be identified as TMs if they were going to eat there. Then soon asked TMs to completely stop eating at FA deeming that area is designated just for guests during the start of the CIHYFS years.
 
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Well, if it isn't company policy then I don't see how an individual store can actually enforce it.

As far as the customers go, if someone complains then it should be explained to them, politely and respectfully that those team members who are just sitting around are on break/lunch.

No doubt the customer complaining takes breaks and lunches at their job.
 

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As far as the customers go, if someone complains then it should be explained to them, politely and respectfully that those team members who are just sitting around are on break/lunch.
Yeh, that works just as effectively as telling a guest "Sorry, I'm off the clock."

If TMs would do their part to keep it picked up & leadership equipped it to make it a decent place to take your break, they wouldn't want to be around a guest-filled area. Our store does a breakroom quasi-makeover ever so often but, after a few months, it reverts to a trash-filled dump. One day, I was fed up enough to clean it up after I'd finished my lunch. Later, I was coached for "working off the clock".
 
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Well, I've no idea what the breakrooms at your store are like.

Over the years and in the course of different jobs, I've taken breaks/lunches in areas where customers were also eating, in the breakroom, outside, at a fastfood place, sitting in a cooler because the AC was out and I was hot and in one instance, at a bar with the lead assistant manager.

Us coming back to work, after we'd been drinking, is the only one that I can see how it was any of the store's business and that one, nobody ever knew about.
 
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Our breakroom is filled with Target posters, Target Red magazine, Target health and wellness info, don't even get me started on the table talkers. If I want to take my lunch without interruption and without thinking about Target it is not going to happen in that room. The TV is blaring, walkies are on and loud. I prefer quiet and peaceful to recharge my battery. The potlucks are just plain gross. I have watched people shove their hands in bags of chips one right after another. It makes me gag. I would be willing to bet that soap has never touched most of those hands. It is not my job to clean the breakroom when I am off the clock. I will and do pick up after myself. There is no way I am spending my time off the clock to clean up after some of the slobs that work in my store, including ETLs. As I said earlier I have every right when I am not on the clock, to eat in Stbx or Food Cafe as a paying guest
 
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ISTM the stores ST has worked at might be combining all the breaks into 1. I worked for a company many, many moons ago that did that...if we worked <5 hours, we got a 15 minute break; >5, 1 hour lunch, but no breaks (other than quick bathroom breaks). We didn't have to clock out, though, and were also allowed to split it up into 2-15s & a 30 if we wanted to as long as we let management know (it was an office setting), which is what most of us did unless we went out for lunch.
Then again, I could be wrong ;)
 
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At our store, we aren't allowed to take our breaks in FA/SBX, either, but the breakroom is clean and there's a TV, not to mention, I've Been asked by guests if their prescriptions are ready while I've been waiting in line at SBX, so I'd rather be "out of sight" anyway ;)
 
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ISTM the stores ST has worked at might be combining all the breaks into 1. I worked for a company many, many moons ago that did that...if we worked <5 hours, we got a 15 minute break; >5, 1 hour lunch, but no breaks (other than quick bathroom breaks). We didn't have to clock out, though, and were also allowed to split it up into 2-15s & a 30 if we wanted to as long as we let management know (it was an office setting), which is what most of us did unless we went out for lunch.
Then again, I could be wrong ;)
No, the last store I worked at that had structured breaks, it was a paid 15 minute somewhere around the 2 hour mark, an unpaid hour somewhere around the 5 hour mark and then another paid 15 minute 2-3 hours later.

If for some reason you happened to work a double shift than there was supposed to be another hour lunch.

They were a bit flexible on breaks but the hour lunch thing was mandatory and pretty strictly enforced.
 
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It's all about perception. When I worked in McDonald's we weren't allowed to eat in the dining room unless we put a jacket on over our work outfit. Customers will get the perception that you are on the clock no matter what. I think if you covered up your shirt and name tag they wouldn't say anything at all but they could also be jerks about it.

Pardon the fact im using food ave..

I was told that I am no longer allowed to eat at food ave on my 45 break. Which I find messed up..
I've worked for target for 5the years and in 2the stores and have never heard anything like this.. so I was wondering if this is for anyone else as well.
 
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Figured id update the post..

I cleared it up with my ETL HR.. she said my ETL never said that we couldn't eat in Food Ave on our unpaid 45 meals. So I guess our GSTL made it up..
 
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It's all about perception. When I worked in McDonald's we weren't allowed to eat in the dining room unless we put a jacket on over our work outfit. Customers will get the perception that you are on the clock no matter what. I think if you covered up your shirt and name tag they wouldn't say anything at all but they could also be jerks about it.
And this is target not McDonald's.. plus I see McDonald's employees on break all the time in their uniform.. guess each franchise is different plus different state rules.
 
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I want a 45 minute lunch. I don't care where I have to take it. What states get a 45?
New York State

OT: my ETLs have their status meetings at food ave, ETLs buy their TLs coffee at Starbucks. 30% of TMs at my store spend their break at Food Ave. It depends on the store.
 
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