can someone explain an ORG chart and what AE12 is?

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Org chart is organizational chart - it describes the amount and types of ETL's/TL's that various store sizes - or "volumes" - should have allocated to them.

AE12 stands for Achieving Excellence 2012. Every year headquarters comes up with a way of supposedly making stores more efficient (read: more profitable). This often includes changing the amount of leaders - who are higher paid and thus more expensive - in certain org charts. For example, for AE12, in a GM org chart 2 (all non-super Targets that make between x million and y million dollars a year) the number of hardlines Team leads may grow/shrink, two seperate TL positions might be combined into one, and so on.
 

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They don't cut ETLs at my store, only TLs. And they DO handle a lot of the workload.
 
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ok, so I'm sorry to resurrect an old thread - but I have a question. Supposedly our store is going to org chart 2, does anyone know what that means. I'm sure it's bad - just how bad may it be??
 

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ok, so I'm sorry to resurrect an old thread - but I have a question. Supposedly our store is going to org chart 2, does anyone know what that means. I'm sure it's bad - just how bad may it be??
Not sure, are you moving up or down?
 

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The higher the org chart, the more sales your store does in a year.

Here are the official org chart brackets for AE2012

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[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]$0M[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]$26M[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]36.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]36.5[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]45.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]45.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]53.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]53.8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]67.1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]67.1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]75.3[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]75.3[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]83.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]83.5[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]91.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]91.7[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]99.9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]99.9[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]108.2[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]108.2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]116.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]116.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]+[/TD]
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looks like we are moving from org chart 3 to org chart 2. Thanks for the info - wonder if we are losing any team leaders. Maybe it's just the changes for the incoming team leaders starting wages and grade levels that I have been hearing about. I still wonder about combining PTL and PATL. Guess I will have to wait to see.
 

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looks like we are moving from org chart 3 to org chart 2. Thanks for the info - wonder if we are losing any team leaders. Maybe it's just the changes for the incoming team leaders starting wages and grade levels that I have been hearing about. I still wonder about combining PTL and PATL. Guess I will have to wait to see.
As far as I know only Org Chart 1 stores will make that combination...
 
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As far as I know only Org Chart 1 stores will make that combination...
good to know - the communication channels in our store are broken - like the cable guy was called, and he got lost cause no one knew the address, and there are no batteries in the remote.

just kidding, but you catch my drift - so to speak.
 
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our phones are always overhead - it's so unprofessional - so much for a quiet shopping environment.
wow.. this would NEVER fly at our store. I know a lot of stores have the fitting room answer the phone but at ours HR does at TSC. There's been very few select times that we've had the phones overhead and that was only late at night and when we were EXTREMELY short staffed. This is one of the things that my STL feels very strongly about.
 

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wow.. this would NEVER fly at our store. I know a lot of stores have the fitting room answer the phone but at ours HR does at TSC. There's been very few select times that we've had the phones overhead and that was only late at night and when we were EXTREMELY short staffed. This is one of the things that my STL feels very strongly about.
My store never has the phones overhead except during overnight. Fitting room always answers the phone except on Black Friday, when someone in the TSC answers calls.
 
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I really hate the phones ringing overhead all day long.
I remember when it would NEVER happen.
Our fitting room person has so many tasks, they can't always get to it, even with a cordless phone.
 
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looks like we are moving from org chart 3 to org chart 2. Thanks for the info - wonder if we are losing any team leaders. Maybe it's just the changes for the incoming team leaders starting wages and grade levels that I have been hearing about. I still wonder about combining PTL and PATL. Guess I will have to wait to see.
I would guess you might loose headcount on TL's but they won't outright fire anyone. They will just not replace when one leaves. Were Org Chart 2 and we have:
1 ETL-GE/SL (we are approved an Overage for ETL's, but we are currently down one. When we get another GE and SL will split)
1 ETL- HR
1 ETL-HL
1 ETL-LOG

1 Pricing TL
1 Presentation TL
2 Hardlines TL
1 CTL
1 Softlines TL
1 Flow
1 Replenishment (includes instocks)
2 GSTL
 
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I would guess you might loose headcount on TL's but they won't outright fire anyone. They will just not replace when one leaves. Were Org Chart 2 and we have:
1 ETL-GE/SL (we are approved an Overage for ETL's, but we are currently down one. When we get another GE and SL will split)
1 ETL- HR
1 ETL-HL
1 ETL-LOG

1 Pricing TL
1 Presentation TL
2 Hardlines TL
1 CTL
1 Softlines TL
1 Flow
1 Replenishment (includes instocks)
2 GSTL
We have so many combo's and changes I'm not sure who's what anymore !
I know we have
1 ETL-Log
1 ETL - HL/GE

1 pricing TL
1 presentation TL
2 HL tl
1 sL tL
1 instocks
1 backroom
3? gstl

Ugh... It gets confusing so I just stick with the one TL i'm aligned with and try not to go crazy
 
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My store is a B Volume Org Chart 2 and we have:

1 ETL-SL
1 ETL-HL
1 ETL-LOG
1 ETL-HR
1 ETL-GE
1 ETL-AP
1 ETL-Rx

and TL we have:

2 HL TL
2 SL TL
1 Pricing TL
1 Presentation TL
1 Flow/Instocks TL
2 GSTL
1 HR TL (yeah I know right?)
1 CTL
1 Backroom TL
 

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B Volume, Unique prototype.

STL
ETL-HR
ETL-HL x2
ETL-SL
ETL-GE
ETL-AP
ETL-LOG
ETL-RX

Sr. LOG-TL x2
Sr. HL-TL
Sr. GSTL

REPL-TL (Backroom + instocks)
HL-TL x3 (2 HL, 1 Electronics)
CTL
HR-TL
SL-TL
GSTL x2
PA-TL
Plano-TL
 

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A+ Volume P-Fresh, Org Chart 5, P09 I think.

STL
ETL-HR
ETL-GE
ETL-SL
ETL-HL x2
ETL-AP
ETL-Log
ETL-Repl
ETL-Rx x2

SrTL-HL x2
TL-HR
GSTL x3 (plus 5 GSAs)
TL-HL x2
TL-SL x2
TL-Consumables (plus 3 PAs)
TL-Food Service
TL-Starbucks
TL-Instocks (also does HL)
TL-Plano
TL-Pricing
TL-Flow x2
TL-Backroom x2 (one dayside, one O/N)
 
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Im probably the smallest store in this thread...
Volume D, Org Chart 1,High Risk, P2001 prototype.
STL
ETL-OPS
ETL-HR
ETL-LOG
ETL-AP
ETL-Sales Floor

Sr.TL GSTL (x2)
Srl.TL SL
TL HL
TL Cons
TL Flow
TL Backroom/Instocks
TL Pricing/Presentation
TL Human Resources
TL Food Service
 
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ORG chart means Organizagtional Chart, which basically is a chart showing who all of your superiors are, TL up to STL.
I've never heard of either of these things, despite being with Target for two years. What are they, and how do they impact stores?
 
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Im probably the smallest store in this thread...
Volume D, Org Chart 1,High Risk, P2001 prototype.
STL
ETL-OPS
ETL-HR
ETL-LOG
ETL-AP
ETL-Sales Floor

Sr.TL GSTL (x2)
Srl.TL SL
TL HL
TL Cons
TL Flow
TL Backroom/Instocks
TL Pricing/Presentation
TL Human Resources
TL Food Service
Surprised you have an ETL-OPS, must have something to do with you being a High Risk store?
 
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Not sure what letter volume this would make my store. I know we're ULV.

STL
ETL - HR
ETL - Logistics
ETL - Hardlines
ETL - Softlines
ETL - AP

Sr. TL - Backroom/Instocks
Sr. TL - Presentation/Pricing
Sr. TL - Salesfloor
TL - FLow
TL - Salesfloor x 2
TL - Foodservice
GSTL
 

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Not sure what letter volume this would make my store. I know we're ULV.

STL
ETL - HR
ETL - Logistics
ETL - Hardlines
ETL - Softlines
ETL - AP

Sr. TL - Backroom/Instocks
Sr. TL - Presentation/Pricing
Sr. TL - Salesfloor
TL - FLow
TL - Salesfloor x 2
TL - Foodservice
GSTL
Looks like an Org Chart 2 so B or C? Possibly in an area with unique theft trends as most Org Chart 2's would have an APL/APTL instead of an ETL-AP
 

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A+ Volume P-Fresh, Org Chart 5, P09 I think.

STL
ETL-HR
ETL-GE
ETL-SL
ETL-HL x2
ETL-AP
ETL-Log
ETL-Repl
ETL-Rx x2

SrTL-HL x2
TL-HR
GSTL x3 (plus 5 GSAs)
TL-HL x2
TL-SL x2
TL-Consumables (plus 3 PAs)
TL-Food Service
TL-Starbucks
TL-Instocks (also does HL)
TL-Plano
TL-Pricing
TL-Flow x2
TL-Backroom x2 (one dayside, one O/N)
Wow our STL needs to find out how we can get this many TLs! We are the same volume and are allocated alot less than that!
 
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I'll bet good money that I am the smallest store :) D volume.....not sure of our current org chart. Believe it just changed.

STL
ETL- SL/HL/GE
ETL - RX
ETL - LOG
ETL - AP
ETL - HR

TL - Flow
TL - BR/Instocks
TL - HL (Also a Sr.)
TL - SL (Also a Sr.)
TL - Pricing/Presentation
TL - Sbux/Food Ave
TL - Guest Service
TL - Consumables (Also a Sr.)
 
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Wow our STL needs to find out how we can get this many TLs! We are the same volume and are allocated alot less than that!
You must be a lower org chart then. Though you'd think stores of the same volume would use the same org chart (with exceptions for high risk, etc.).
 

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I don't understand how some of your stores have 3 HL TL's and 1 SL. That sounds awful for Softlines.
 
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I don't understand how some of your stores have 3 HL TL's and 1 SL. That sounds awful for Softlines.
One thing I've heard from visiting etl's and dtl is that they are amazed at how much we do with so few people. We're all crossed trained and everyone does a little bit of everything.
 
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I don't understand how some of your stores have 3 HL TL's and 1 SL. That sounds awful for Softlines.
It's not so bad in soft lines depending on how good your "Brand Team" is. If you have a solid brand team it's almost like having 3 other Team Leaders....
 

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I don't understand how some of your stores have 3 HL TL's and 1 SL. That sounds awful for Softlines.
We actually have five for hardlines, but two of them are SrTLs and one is also the Instocks TL, so they don't count. We have two for softlines, but we have a bunch of Brand TMs who handle a lot. Like STL said, having a good Brand Team helps.
 
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Ok I found out that we are a C volume org chart 1, though we are bordering on 2.

As for Brand tm's... I guess I am the market and we have 1 for cosmetics.
 

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My needs attention are two of our brand tms sooo :(. I feel like we (me and the other TL) do all the work that goes above zoning. Too much work, not enough people to do it.
 

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STL
ETL-HR
ETL-GE
ETL-SL
ETL-HL x2
ETL-AP
ETL-Log x2
ETL-Repl x2
ETL-Rx

TL-HL x3
TL-HR
GSTL x2 (3 GSAs)
TL-SL x3
TL Grocery x2
TL-Meat
TL-Produce
TL-Food Service
TL-Bakery
TL-Starbucks
TL-Plano
TL-Pricing
TL-Flow x2
TL-Backroom x2 (one dayside, one O/N)
 
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