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Were Lucky if our truck is completed by our next truck.... But I digress.... Firing our Slow Team Leader this week.... I mean Flow Team Leader
My store too. Right now im on dayside remodel, which is pretty much fixing whatever overnight fucked up.Ours is done pretty fast cause they hide stuff through the store that we find later while zoning so couldn't really give you an exact time since its basically all day fixing their mistakes lol
Taken out by stretcher? What in the world is going on over there? LolWith two throwing and ten on the line, it takes us 90 minutes to get a 2,300 piece truck done.
It doesn't matter though. In my experience, all logistic ETL's are never satisfied with how fast the truck is done. Speed often comes at the price of worker safety as "Speed is Life" at Target. I've seen team members pass out, throwers who were hurt, injured, and taken out on stretchers by avalanches inside the truck, and just this week an elderly team member was clutching at his chest complaining of discomfort.
My guess is 4am by that schedule.@WailFin what time do you start your trailer?
Generally, you want a 2000-piece truck unloaded in 1 hour. 2000/60 minutes = 33 cartons/minute. So, just take your truck size and divide by 33 and that's how long you should take to unload a truck.
1700/33 = 51 minutes
2300/33 = 69 minutes
If your store is not meeting this goal, I would re-evaluate how your line is setup (custom blocks, # of TMs, etc) and adjust until you meet this goal. For us, we have 2 throwers and 1 more pushing boxes off the truck, 8 on the line.
Aside from momentum and ridding the floor of skids quickly so guests aren't annoyed is there really any reason to add TMs to the line to have a faster unload vs a slower unload w/ less people? (I would much prefer a super fast unload, just asking out of curiosity)
It sounds like your custom blocks could be redone. Our line was built to have 1tm every 3 skids optimally, the placement of the custom blocks are so that every 3 skids is about the same amount boxes come off the truck.We always seem to have either not enough people or too many on the line. We'll get a 2k+ truck and only have 4 on the line. Then we'll get a 1500 truck and have 8 on the line. Then the TL or ETL will send someone to the floor early, before the truck is done, and then inevitably one TM will get slammed with 100 boxes in a row and fall way behind. In a perfect world...as SrTLall said...our perfect would be 2 throwers, one scanner, one pusher and 8 on the line. Never happens though.
Absolutely if we were overnight we'd probably stagger people coming in leaving more of the Team to come in after the truck is done unloading as if we don't have to rush to make sure the floor is clear and clean by the time the store opens. The truck would take longer in terms of when the truck unload is started to when the truck is done being pushed and processed, but we'd probably use less hours and more specialized TMs.A lot of overnight stores have slower unloads with less people because they never have to worry about guests in the store. That can be said for 4AM stores as well because they should have a majority of the truck done before 8AM. If you're at a 6AM store, having a quick unload is a must so that you can bowl as much product as possible before the store opens. Bowling saves so much time, but you cannot bowl when guests are shopping, so that faster you unload, the more you can bowl and the faster the truck gets done.
Like I said your custom blocks and line set up probably should be changed. We condensed the line down to be purely next to the line before we had uboats. No one has to walk anywhere except to grab replacement skids. That means backstock only takes 7 skids total that includes 1 skid just meant for oversized items. It's rough for new TMs to get used to covering the blackline because they have alot more numbers to remember but the numbers are balanced based on where they are in the backroom and how much we expect off the truck. Black line tends to only be about 20% of a truck if it can be helped try not to commit more than 20% of the line to it. Our line used to consist of 24 skids and a tub with 7 of those for blackline 30% of the line is for blackline, 30% vs 20% because the backroom would complain if we just dumped all the boxes are too few skids.Having a TM 'assigned' to a certain number of skids doesn't really work for us. We have one TM that does that religiously and refuses to help further up or down the line when someone gets behind and it just causes more issues then solves. For instance I usually will work on anywhere from 4-8 skids just by myself (but most of those are backstock and very low numbers). Very often we'll get a run of boxes that go on one or two skids so everyone but one or two people are standing around. Then...there are the just flat out slow people that have to place every single box on a skid in exactly the perfect position. But that's a whole different thread. LOL.
Uboats on the line!? That sounds like a horrible idea. It's hard enough to stack the skids with how random the boxes come off the truck...I can't imagine trying to do a uboat...ugh
The problem is that you can't pull those pallets in the middle of the unload. Plus, it varies so much each truck.Black line tends to only be about 20% of a truck if it can be helped try not to commit more than 20% of the line to it
I'm familiar with the blue side/green side but I've never heard of entire trucks split that way. You're right to say that it probably isn't very common.Also I don't hear people mention "Green" or "Blue" trucks, not sure if that's just my store. Green has the groceries, HBA, chems, pets, and paper stuff etc. while Blue has everything else.
I'm at a AAA+ store with overnight unload. I'm guessing unloading 2 (3 with P-fresh) trucks every night is not common because I don't hear about it at all on here. Unload starts at around 10:25 and sometimes it doesn't get done til after 1AM if we get two big trucks. Usually we have 7 for the line with the team flexing to either side when necessary, and the 2 unloaders, the scanner, and the TL usually helping out the guys push boxes in the truck or moving skids, so that's 11 for the line. Usually we have 2 pulling pallets but we always start with one until we need the 2nd. Make sure your pallet pullers are helping out on the line and not just waiting for pallets to be filled. One day last week we got a 2800 green truck and 2400 blue truck and unload was done at around 1:30. Also I don't hear people mention "Green" or "Blue" trucks, not sure if that's just my store. Green has the groceries, HBA, chems, pets, and paper stuff etc. while Blue has everything else. It's pretty rare we only get 1 truck for one night. It use to happen more often but now apparently they just "Send what they have" instead of waiting to have a more filled truck to send. Also it almost never happens that we don't get a P-fresh truck, but every time it does, we get hit with a 1800-2800 P-Fresh unload the next night, it's ridiculous.
Our unload starts at 10pm and we usually finish by 11:30 if it's a normal crew and not a double. With our normal crew we usually have two throwers, two pushers and then maybe 8-10 people on the line if no one calls out. There have been times though where an unload will finish earlier, the earliest we've ever finished was 11:10, or later, one time we didn't finish until after 1am lol but it was two big trucks.
Wait, you don't move your backstock pallets? We pull ours and just stage them in receiving around a corner although sometimes we pull them out of receiving near the stockroom just because yeah sometimes you get 1000+ blackline and it wont sit nicely back there. Our backstock pallets have hard set custom blocks that reflect a relative location in the backroom so all of chem and paper are only on one pallet. If it gets too full we pull it and stage it for backroom to grab it later, so it's easier on them and easier on us because when pallets get tall you have to spend more time to make the stack perfect. Otherwise we'd need to just randomly throw boxes on pallets all the time because making it harder on the backroom. In fact i prefer to be pulling and staging pallets over having more pallets, making the line more compact means people have to walk less, meaning they're spending more of their time actually moving boxes off the rollers.The problem is that you can't pull those pallets in the middle of the unload. Plus, it varies so much each truck.
We sometimes have trucks with 1000+ pieces going to the backroom. By the time the unload is done, every single backstock and transition pallet is stacked 8 feet high and there's boxes all over the floor.
There isn't really any way to get them out except by pulling them one by one from the end farthest from the dock. And the transition and bulk is on the pallets closest to the dock so it doesn't have to travel very far and also because it won't need to be pulled to the main stockroom.Wait, you don't move your backstock pallets?
Well that sounds terribly restrictive. We have just enough room to slip pallets by each other on the backside although it does get harder the closer you are to the docks, which is why the pull pallets that are on that side of the line are all far away from the dock.There isn't really any way to get them out except by pulling them one by one from the end farthest from the dock. And the transition and bulk is on the pallets closest to the dock so it doesn't have to travel very far and also because it won't need to be pulled to the main stockroom.
When we take a double, every backroom TM grabs a pallet jack and brings as many pallets down as possible in the lull when the line is being moved over to the second truck.