Archived Instock Team Going Away in March

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in my time with Target, this is the second time this team has been ditched.
They used to be called the ISIS team in the olden days.
 
You know the biggest problem with this that I bet HQ has not even considered?

Ok, so kill off instock team and put it back on TL's to "own" their instocks.....

Ok, sounds great in theory it worked before.... Ok, but are they factoring in that before instock team there were a hell of a lot more TLs, and a hell of a lot more TMs?

Before instock team my store had the following:

1 electronics spec
1 MMB spec
1 jewelery spec (that helped out in many other softlines areas)
8 hardlines TLs
6 softlines TLs

Now we have

no specialists at all
4 hardlines TLs
2 softlines TLs
Plus a hell of a lot less TMs than the past

Ok.... anyone else see a problem here? There is no way stores like mine can have TLs own instocks again and get everything else done which we can barely do as is. I see another disaster coming with this one....
 
You know the biggest problem with this that I bet HQ has not even considered?

Ok, so kill off instock team and put it back on TL's to "own" their instocks.....

Ok, sounds great in theory it worked before.... Ok, but are they factoring in that before instock team there were a hell of a lot more TLs, and a hell of a lot more TMs?

Before instock team my store had the following:

1 electronics spec
1 MMB spec
1 jewelery spec (that helped out in many other softlines areas)
8 hardlines TLs
6 softlines TLs

Now we have

no specialists at all
4 hardlines TLs
2 softlines TLs
Plus a hell of a lot less TMs than the past

Ok.... anyone else see a problem here? There is no way stores like mine can have TLs own instocks again and get everything else done which we can barely do as is. I see another disaster coming with this one....

Exactly!
 
You know the biggest problem with this that I bet HQ has not even considered?

Ok, so kill off instock team and put it back on TL's to "own" their instocks.....

Ok, sounds great in theory it worked before.... Ok, but are they factoring in that before instock team there were a hell of a lot more TLs, and a hell of a lot more TMs?

That was one of my points earlier. Before Instocks, there were, say four, team leads who can do research on Mondays. Now, if you get rid of Instocks, one, maybe two, team leads who will be "able" to do the whole store.
 
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You know the biggest problem with this that I bet HQ has not even considered?

Ok, so kill off instock team and put it back on TL's to "own" their instocks.....

Ok, sounds great in theory it worked before.... Ok, but are they factoring in that before instock team there were a hell of a lot more TLs, and a hell of a lot more TMs?

Before instock team my store had the following:

1 electronics spec
1 MMB spec
1 jewelery spec (that helped out in many other softlines areas)
8 hardlines TLs
6 softlines TLs

Now we have

no specialists at all
4 hardlines TLs
2 softlines TLs
Plus a hell of a lot less TMs than the past

Ok.... anyone else see a problem here? There is no way stores like mine can have TLs own instocks again and get everything else done which we can barely do as is. I see another disaster coming with this one....

It just depends how it is handled! We do not know details (or if this rumor is even true)... so it might be possible that this is a good thing? If they did it how I said, we'd all be sitting pretty well :p Unfortunately I'm not the one in charge of these roll outs :)
 
If the team leads are expected to do research on top of all the other crap we already do then it's not going to get done.
Between the stupid weekly paperwork tables logs and other resets plus being the only person in your area all day until the closers come this would be ridiculous. I also already have to pick up slack from the other TL this would be to much. Either they need to add more tl's we have a few on the bench already or they need to add more tm's dayside to get this to work.

Knowing spot they'll do this and cut hours and add more to the workload...no wonder half the seasonal tm's quit before the season is over
 
8 Hardlines TLs?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Holy crap.
 
pushing the whole truck would be great, but our flow team for some dumb reason doesnt actually like to work the freight out. Every once in a while ill take a BS tub that they brought back, take it out and 50-75% of the "BS" goes out.
 
Log Monkey I can totally relate. We had a discussion in the stockroom today about the exact same thing.

Stuckinsoftlines, I know you think it won't get done but it will. We are going back to the way we started. This is a better and more accountable system. Have faith.
 
I know this doesn't mean much, but I mentioned this "rumor" to my ETL-LOG and LOG-TL yesterday, and neither one knew anything about it, or any big changes to the Instock process. My ETL-LOG said he didn't like the idea of pushing the whole truck.
 
I used to dread the days when something happened and I had to push a whole truck but it didnt' go that bad. No scanner so she would push everything down. We would only catch boxes with a B for bacstock or trap so one tm for the backstock side. After backroomm got their autofills pulled and the small amount of backstock they would come out and push and they had pdas to check for 2nd locations. It used to fill the floor quite nicely and there wasn't a lot of case freight going back. I just had to remind the team not to open the box until they checked the location first so we weren't sending a bunch of open boxes to the backroom for backstock.

Oh and yes the team would miss things but they had no pdas for 2nd locs. the worst was 2nd locations aisles from the original or on the other side of the store. I hated compare and save. I used to check after pog team who had pdas and was good for killing endcaps and not pushing the 2nd locs and then bringing back tubs of backstock.
 
Instocks is still going to be instocks- the way they shoot will be changed though. My store is in the middle of testing a different way to shoot research and outs. I don't know all the details, but it's supposed to make the pulls more aggressive... That is, if your instocks team get the chance to shoot. We're a 6am store- so they usually end up helping flow push the truck anyways
 
our instocks team is lazy. with three of them, they NEVER finish the scan. not even through one department, and they're not helping push. usually they're just all tagging along talking to each other, staring at the labels for some unknown reason for 10 min before scanning. yesterday, they were having a great debate (for an HOUR) over why there was 2 of something in one location, 1 in the other, and it showed 5 on hands. i was hoping it would go away. IMO, the departments looked better when we had department managers. then you could hold someone accountable. as it is, you have a bunch of lazy srtl (hl in our store) that stay at tsc, but that's ok, because my team has to set their salesplanners, push their truck, ptm their aisles, and work out their clearance.
 
This place needs a like button! I thought it was just my instocks and SrTLs that were like this. I've now stepped into the Twilight Zone
 
One problem is that team members don't understand what the instock process is. They are the ones that changes the store inventory. But before they do that they have to be sure there is nothing in the back and the number of on hands corresponds to what is on the floor.

One thing I hate is when flow, sales floor and recovery team members don't read the labels properly. I can't tell you the number of times I have to shift things over of things with easy-to-read labels. There was an instance when I had to move a product (5 eaches of one bar of soap) 4 times.
 
our instocks team is lazy. with three of them, they NEVER finish the scan. not even through one department, and they're not helping push. usually they're just all tagging along talking to each other, staring at the labels for some unknown reason for 10 min before scanning. yesterday, they were having a great debate (for an HOUR) over why there was 2 of something in one location, 1 in the other, and it showed 5 on hands. i was hoping it would go away. IMO, the departments looked better when we had department managers. then you could hold someone accountable. as it is, you have a bunch of lazy srtl (hl in our store) that stay at tsc, but that's ok, because my team has to set their salesplanners, push their truck, ptm their aisles, and work out their clearance.

Are you sure that team of three isn't your ETL-salesfloor ETL-hr and STL? Or as suggested below your senior teamleads.
 
One problem is that team members don't understand what the instock process is. They are the ones that changes the store inventory. But before they do that they have to be sure there is nothing in the back and the number of on hands corresponds to what is on the floor.

One thing I hate is when flow, sales floor and recovery team members don't read the labels properly. I can't tell you the number of times I have to shift things over of things with easy-to-read labels. There was an instance when I had to move a product (5 eaches of one bar of soap) 4 times.

Too right. Most of the flow team thinks that I do what they do and most of the salesfloor thinks that I do what they do. Both teams figure that we don't have a clue since we aren't doing exactly what they are doing. Plano and pricing avoid us like the plague and none of the ETL's have ever read our job description. Our STL literally has made up BP and looks shocked when we challenge it and show the paperwork to back us up. If you don't know what the job entails - regardless of which job it is - you really should not make blanket statements about laziness, not doing anything and standing around talking. Doing a good PTM actually requires discussion and thinking. A poor zone, inaccurate and slow stocking and unfinished backstocking inhibits our work. Knowing when aisles will be set and what the plan for the transition is are important to our team. POGs that have been inaccurately tied or not tied at all are a nightmare. Capacities may not be of much concern to most people on the floor, but they are to the IS team. It's dismaying to see how many people on this forum just don't get how intertwined all of the processes are and think that they are the only ones in their store that know anything or do any work. Get over yourselves.
 
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