Archived Pay Increases w Min Wage Increase?

[ntauctions]

In NY the minimum wage is presently $9 an hour and set to gradually increase up to $12+, then to $15. At present new team members in our store make $11 an hour, and overnight flow gets a $1 an hour increase. I'm wondering how these stores have dealt with the minimum wage increase. Do team members get a pay increase on top of any that might come from the state? For example, I'm presently making $12 an hour ($11 + $1, or $3 over the minimum). Once the NY minimum wage hits $12, should i expect my pay to be $15 an hour, or $3 over the minimum, as it is now?

I briefly mentioned this to HR and she said something along the lines of 'brand new team members are now making the same as others who have been here for a few years. it is what is it.' She seem pretty evasive about it.

Anyone know what should be expected in terms of pay increases?

 

[anathema]

You would be bumped up to $15.

 

[ntauctions]

You would be bumped up to $15.

The minimum wage in NY right now is $9, so I'm making $3 over it an hour. As it gradually increases to $15 then my $3 over per hour should also stay you're saying? (Once the minimum is $15 I should be making $18?) Are there any yearly performance pay increases on top of minimum wage increases?

 

[anathema]

I can only tell you what I got.

Our min. wage was bumped up to $10. I was already making over $10 with, let's say, $2.50 worth of raises. I only got the yearly increase, nothing more. From the sound of what your HR said, you should expect the same. If you're under $15, you will be pushed up. I can't recall, but I thought some had a yearly increase on top of being bumped up, but you certainly won't get $3 on top of the $15.

 

[HRZone]

The minimum wage in NY right now is $9, so I'm making $3 over it an hour. As it gradually increases to $15 then my $3 over per hour should also stay you're saying? (Once the minimum is $15 I should be making $18?) Are there any yearly performance pay increases on top of minimum wage increases?

For consistency sake you should take out your shift differential since that has nothing to do with minimum wage and more to do with you working while the store is closed.

You should ask HR what your pay grade is. If it is 2 dollars above base then it will stay that way when they raise minimum wage.

The minimum wage in this case actually doesnt matter that much. What matters more is what Target is setting base pay at. (EDIT) If they set it at 12 dollars equal to minimum wage you will make whats over base for flow (probably 12.50)

At my store min wage is 13 dollars. Everyone makes at least that both new and old. When they raised it from 9.47, those who made 10 dollars got the 13 dollars plus the .53 cents above minimum wage.

 

[qmosqueen]

You would be bumped up to $15.

what state of denial are you living in ?

My minimum is 10 / hr and PA's Perishable Assistants start at 11 / hr well after three raises i'm only at 11.44 / hr so, no you keep going down while the minus keeps increasing .
Soon everyone will make the same amount, just enough to live pay check to pay check .

 

[qmosqueen]

At my store min wage is 13 dollars. Everyone makes at least that both new and old. When they raised it from 9.47, those who made 10 dollars got the 13 dollars plus the .53 cents above minimum wage.

can i work in your state, wow 13/hr

 

[HRZone]

what state of denial are you living in ?

My minimum is 10 / hr and PA's Perishable Assistants start at 11 / hr well after three raises i'm only at 11.44 / hr so, no you keep going down while the minus keeps increasing .
Soon everyone will make the same amount, just enough to live pay check to pay check .

I looked at some job data and you are actually correct. When Target raises the floor they dont necessarily raise the ceiling. A cart attendant only makes a dollar less than a p fresh assistant even though one is a pay grade 3 and the other is a paygrade 9 or 11

 

[HRZone]

can i work in your state, wow 13/hr

Its not all roses, our cost of living is awful. Not quite San Fran but heading that way.

Whats interesting is that a major city raised their wages to 13 an hour while other Targets were paying 9.47.

Guess where all the applicants went? Target had to raise wages across the board.

 

[SFSFun]

In NY the minimum wage is presently $9 an hour and set to gradually increase up to $12+, then to $15. At present new team members in our store make $11 an hour, and overnight flow gets a $1 an hour increase. I'm wondering how these stores have dealt with the minimum wage increase. Do team members get a pay increase on top of any that might come from the state? For example, I'm presently making $12 an hour ($11 + $1, or $3 over the minimum). Once the NY minimum wage hits $12, should i expect my pay to be $15 an hour, or $3 over the minimum, as it is now?

I briefly mentioned this to HR and she said something along the lines of 'brand new team members are now making the same as others who have been here for a few years. it is what is it.' She seem pretty evasive about it.

Anyone know what should be expected in terms of pay increases?

You need to look at the Target base pay right now, and not the NY state minimum wage. And note that everything I say below doesn't take into account your overnight shift dif or future annual raises.

Nationwide, Target starts pay at $10, with flow and BR at 50 cents higher than the base. So if you are a new overnight Flow TM making $11, I would assume the Target base pay in your area is $10.50 (plus 50 cents for Flow/BR/etc.).

It is up to Target to determine if they want to continue to keep ahead of the minimum wage increases. They could leave it as is until min wage goes higher than their base pay of $10.50 or they could keep raising it in advance. But the difference between your current pay and the minimum wage doesn't mean much and the gap will probably get smaller until the min wage is $15 and you are making $15.50.

HR was evasive because they are going to get a lot of pissed off veteran TMs complaining about their years worth of raises being wiped out by the base pay increases.

 

[RandomRedShirt]

The minimum wage in NY right now is $9, so I'm making $3 over it an hour. As it gradually increases to $15 then my $3 over per hour should also stay you're saying? (Once the minimum is $15 I should be making $18?) Are there any yearly performance pay increases on top of minimum wage increases?

I've been with the company for years and have had this happen to me when the minimum wage went up in my state. You'll be bumped up to just slightly over the minimum wage. Your $3 over is gone, I wouldn't doubt if you'll be making $15.10-$15.50 after all said & done. It sucks but as long as you're making over the minimum Target sees no wrong. Also be prepared for new members to walk in making your salary or possibly more.

 

[HRZone]

I've been with the company for years and have had this happen to me when the minimum wage went up in my state. You'll be bumped up to just slightly over the minimum wage. Your $3 over is gone, I wouldn't doubt if you'll be making $15.10-$15.50 after all said & done. It sucks but as long as you're making over the minimum Target sees no wrong. Also be prepared for new members to walk in making your salary or possibly more.

The latter never happens, new team members never make more than old timers. When Target raises base pay for new team members, old team members get at least the same base pay.

 

[signingminion]

The latter never happens, new team members never make more than old timers. When Target raises base pay for new team members, old team members get at least the same base pay.

Bullshit. At least at my store. They selectively gave new hires higher starting pay for specialty teams. So my newest pog makes at least .50 more an hour than i do after 5years.

 

[Frontlanegirl]

The latter never happens, new team members never make more than old timers. When Target raises base pay for new team members, old team members get at least the same base pay.

Not true. New seasonal hires make the same amount that I do. Target adjusted our base rate this past summer and my raise is gone.

 

[Sanzano]

@HRZone So it sounds like from what you're saying, those of us in PG13 shouldn't see an increase at all? Or is it that we only receive an increase if we make less than the 'new' base pay for our pay grade? If we already make more than the new base pay - we get nothing? Lastly, let's say minimum wage is $13, what would you expect the PG13 base pay to be based on your experience?

 

[Stubio]

Minimum wage increase will always cancel out your yearly raise(s) unless your state hasn't increased the minimum wage in a very long time and you will still be making way over the new base pay but since it's going to go up to $15/h , new TMs will achieve parity with you in about 2 years anyways.

 

[SFSFun]

The latter never happens, new team members never make more than old timers. When Target raises base pay for new team members, old team members get at least the same base pay.

That is not true. Our base is $10 for N03 and $10.50 for N07, but seasonal Flow is being hired at $10.75. So someone at N07 who started at the beginning of the year or got a shit raise this year could be making less than a new hire.

 

[RhettB]

In my state, only people below the new min wage got an increase. No increases were given to those above to keep them above what they were before. So, it sucked to be them. I argued this point too. We had some 5-6 year TMs who were a quarter over new hires after the min wage increase in this state.

 

[Redzee]

Theoretically you could quit and get rehired for more money. Certainly no incentive for staying. Spot you capricious flirt.

 

[HRZone]

Not true. New seasonal hires make the same amount that I do. Target adjusted our base rate this past summer and my raise is gone.

Remember what I said, they are making the same as you but they arent making more.

Bullshit. At least at my store. They selectively gave new hires higher starting pay for specialty teams. So my newest pog makes at least .50 more an hour than i do after 5years.

Then you should talk to HR about your pay grade. If the pay grade for a Pog is a n07 at 10.50 and you are only making 10 dollars then you are getting screwed. In the ETL HR office you can ask to see the paygrade for your position and what base pay is.

That is not true. Our base is $10 for N03 and $10.50 for N07, but seasonal Flow is being hired at $10.75. So someone at N07 who started at the beginning of the year or got a shit raise this year could be making less than a new hire.

That had to have been approved by your DTL. We pay our flow 13.50 and our seasonal flow get 13.50, last year when we were unable to hire flow ETL HR asked if we could raise the pay to attract applicants.

 

[HRZone]

Theoretically you could quit and get rehired for more money. Certainly no incentive for staying. Spot you capricious flirt.

I have to recheck but when you term you have to wait between 60 and 120 before you can reapply

 

[HRZone]

@HRZone So it sounds like from what you're saying, those of us in PG13 shouldn't see an increase at all? Or is it that we only receive an increase if we make less than the 'new' base pay for our pay grade? If we already make more than the new base pay - we get nothing? Lastly, let's say minimum wage is $13, what would you expect the PG13 base pay to be based on your experience?

Thats a great question and I wish I had a definite answer but I hope this can help.

When Target raised the base rates to match minimum wage, those above minimum wage (n03) didnt see much gains, if any. Without knowing the rates for your state I would only be speculating, but in mine n13 (team leads) got significant raises with the base rate change. Our TLs used to make 14 or 15 an hour, when they raised TM minimum wage to 13 an hour TLs jumped from between 17 and 20 dollars an hour.

Base pay increases really help new TMs, TLs and those making below the new base pay. TMs who are slightly above the new base benefit the least.

 

[Sanzano]

That was very helpful thanks!

 

[Logo]

Min wage increases are a tough pill to swallow when you're a seasoned TM. 16 year old off the street will make the same as someone with 3 or 4 years of experience.

 

[Megaparsec]

I've been at my store for 8 years and saw my wage increase $3 on merit in that time. Minimum wage pushed it up another 30 or so cents to put me at the same level as new employees.

BUT, I don't actually care. Good for the new people for making more money, does more for the greater good.

(Note, this is not sarcasm)