I've viewed some detailed databases of labor standards for stores and what I've seen indicates this is likely taken into account when stores are allocated hours. There is some variability in how stores choose to allocate those hours, and whether your assigned workload correlates to the number of hours you've been scheduled. But in a perfect scenario, it should closely align.
Yes. It does not include backstocking time.
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No. What I get from MPM and Greenfield doesnt take backstock and other non-push factors into consideration.
But corporate shills don’t understand that and will borderline harass teams anyways with push times.
Documentation literally states trash and walk times are incorporated into push times. Backstock is not incorporated into push time, obviously.
You can call me a corporate shill, but the majority of our team (high volume store) can meet or come damn close to those times. The ones who don't, we work together with to guide them on where they're losing time. Majority of the time, they touch the boxes way too many times, or spend too much time walking back and forth to their vehicles, bringing backstock back as they finish each vehicle instead of just pushing it all then doing backstock altogether. If one is doing other things besides pushing, they're obviously not going to make their push times.
I think the numbers could be tweaked somewhat, as they're not always accurate (H&H is overinflated), but we can assess what times are right or not when we walk the floor and see the actual freight. Majority of the time, they're pretty spot on for someone familiar with the area and isn't slacking.
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Where? Im genuinely curious, I’ve never seen this.
Specially regarding trash, because if I’m not in my building,trash piles up making it near impossible for people to process it in a timely manner for the whole day.
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No one has mentioned anything related to push time being on workday. Thats kinda crazy. Thank you, no rush.
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Ditto on @Unleashed Dog's genuine curiosity about all that's factored into push times!
For example, what part of trash exactly? All that separating that you do while you're pushing, or, afterwards, when you're getting your cardboard and trash to the baler and compactor?
@HInbound, I'm relying on you to give me the answers to the questions that my TL can't be bothered with!
Yes, detrashing to push, then taking cardboard/trash to the compactor/baler, was all included in push times.
I dunno if that's valid for all stores tbh, as some stores are smaller than others, shorter walk times, etc. I can't imagine that kind of stuff would get factored separately for each store, or honestly for each department. Infants is way farther away than Market for our store for example.
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Im currently an Inbound TL(again) and all Ive ever used is MPM/Greenfield and coaching my team. But my SD is a huge butt and continues pissing my team with push times but just yapping and not showing. He always shuts up when I find stuff or reports challenging what he yaps about.
I just want the guy of our back. TM’s not performing are being documented and processed out. HR even told me to halt a bit because we dont have enough staff. But SD keeps pestering.
I just want the guy of our back. TM’s not performing are being documented and processed out. HR even told me to halt a bit because we dont have enough staff. But SD keeps pestering.
I asked my ETL today about where to find that documentation again and they said it was in a Communication when they made the changes to add stocking times to MPM. I do remember them reading it to me during a floor walk. Neither of us had any idea about how to access past Communications, or if it's even possible.
We both dug through Workday and couldn't find anything at this time, so, yeah.
Does anyone know if past Communications can be accessed, and if so, how? I would hope it could have made it to Workday by now, but if it has, our searchfu wasn't very good.
We both dug through Workday and couldn't find anything at this time, so, yeah.
Does anyone know if past Communications can be accessed, and if so, how? I would hope it could have made it to Workday by now, but if it has, our searchfu wasn't very good.
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Push times does not allocate for trash nor backstock .
Your Etl or Tl is smoking something if they say it does .
On MPM it would show you how many unload hours and stocking time. That’s it.
When I was overnight ETL log I was able to maintain the times but that’s because SD allowed me to hire a person just for cardboard this person would go behind every department with the cage ( yes we kept the cages) and would grab their trash and backstock , at 2 am I would have 2 people coming in to do the backstock.
Edit . Or zoning therefore why I also had overnight zoners.
Your Etl or Tl is smoking something if they say it does .
On MPM it would show you how many unload hours and stocking time. That’s it.
When I was overnight ETL log I was able to maintain the times but that’s because SD allowed me to hire a person just for cardboard this person would go behind every department with the cage ( yes we kept the cages) and would grab their trash and backstock , at 2 am I would have 2 people coming in to do the backstock.
Edit . Or zoning therefore why I also had overnight zoners.
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This is a recent change since you quit. My ETL read it out as we were doing a floor walk and isn't one to just make stuff up so to insinuate the leaders are on drugs is really sad behavior. We're not some backwoods Target running on a hope and a prayer, holding top sales in the company for a single day in its history. We know what we're doing.
We follow best practices as much as we can, being ASANTS, as it works best for us being a high volume store. We've come to the agreement that until we can locate the communication and have the documentation in front of us, we won't enforce it.
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At my store we also push out of pods, even while the store is open.
Our pods are the big cubes with the pallet-sized footprint. You need a jack to move them around.
@HInbound, that communication only uses the word "vehicles", but I'm sure my TLs are using those exact same calculations when they give us push times for pods
Anybody ever seen a push times for pods?
At my store we also push out of pods, even while the store is open.
Our pods are the big cubes with the pallet-sized footprint. You need a jack to move them around.
@HInbound, that communication only uses the word "vehicles", but I'm sure my TLs are using those exact same calculations when they give us push times for pods
Anybody ever seen a push times for pods?
I would assume they are generic push times based on cartons, repack eaches, etc. If you know the truck #, you can look the times up in MPM, under Trailers, then look for the trailer #, then scroll down for your custom block, and it will list "stocking time"
You can compare those times with the times your leaders give you, and ask questions if they give you less time than Corpo does.
Edit: I doubt they'd list time per pod, but that would probably be where you might find it.
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