Archived AP/TPS Position

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Hey there fellow TMs! So, a few weeks ago right as I was about to head back out to the floor after lunch, my ETL AP called me over and had a chat with me. The short version of it was that he offered me to work with him in his department (AP), and that I would most likely be a TPS (or some other variation). I told him that I would think about it and here I am. So, I had a few questions about the position & department:

1. I'm not a fairly bulky or muscular individual, would that be an issue for the position? I know I wouldn't be able to "take" down someone if something was happening as I would just be a deterrent with my presence. But would this be an issue of any kind?

2. What are the pros and cons of the position? Is it worth taking the position? If not, why? I'm currently Hardlines and I'm getting paid minimum wage, my ETL AP mentioned that I would be getting paid way more than what I am now and that I would be doing "cooler stuff."

3. I understand a bit about the position, but what would I effectively do? I'm sure there would be training for this, but hearing it now would help me a lot! For example, what would I do if I suspect someone of taking merchandise or if a fellow TM suspects someone of taking merchandise?

4. How difficult is the job? In terms of stress level to the amount of work you need to put in (to put it into perspective, compare it to hardlines).

Thanks ya'll! Any info would help even if you can't answer all of them.
 
1. I'm not a fairly bulky or muscular individual, would that be an issue for the position? I know I wouldn't be able to "take" down someone if something was happening as I would just be a deterrent with my presence. But would this be an issue of any kind?

Target protection specialist is absolutely none of those things. If you take anyone down you are probably getting fired.

You will be more of a detective. Working with team members to nab suspects, shutting down returns, ensuring team members are behaving suspicious, merchandise and following suspicious individuals, oh and standing by the door a lot checking receipts.

It's a brain position not a physical position. At the most you would be assisting with an app not making it.

2. What are the pros and cons of the position? Is it worth taking the position? If not, why? I'm currently Hardlines and I'm getting paid minimum wage, my ETL AP mentioned that I would be getting paid way more than what I am now and that I would be doing "cooler stuff."

It would be a whole dollar per hour raise.

@HardlinesGuy @TPSpower any help?

To my knowledge a lot of people who do it are miserable but it's usually those who did it before they neurtered the position who don't enjoy it.

I would go for it. It's more fun work and better hours.
 
First of all, congratulations for being considered for Asset Protection. In my opinon, it's one of the best jobs in the store. First off, a few basics. Asset Protection = the entire security team, made of ETL-AP's, APTL's, APS's, and TPS's. ETL's and APTL's are fairly self explanatory. APS's, or Asset Protection Specialists, are undercover team members who blend in with the guests to observe people and make apprehensions. TPS's, or Target Protection Specialists, wear the blue security uniform. We deter theft by being a visible security presence in the store, and responding to general security and safety issues. If you are just starting out in AP, it's a 99% chance you'll be a TPS.

1. I'm not a fairly bulky or muscular individual, would that be an issue for the position? I know I wouldn't be able to "take" down someone if something was happening as I would just be a deterrent with my presence. But would this be an issue of any kind?

1 - Not an issue. This job is more about brains than brawns. You need to be able think through tricky situations. Having some muscle behind you to help make tricky apprehensions wouldn't hurt, but it's not a big enough role of AP to warrant concern. Apprehensions shouldn't be getting that violent anyway.

2. What are the pros and cons of the position? Is it worth taking the position? If not, why? I'm currently Hardlines and I'm getting paid minimum wage, my ETL AP mentioned that I would be getting paid way more than what I am now and that I would be doing "cooler stuff."

2 - I was in the same situation. I started as a Hardlines TM making $9.00/hr, and promoted to TPS right around review time, and went up to $11.30 something. Part of that was also due to base pay being raised to $10, but regardless. Most TPS positions start at around $11.00/hr. Some more pros:
  • Your hours are guaranteed so long as you are doing your job. While the Hardlines team will be fighting to get more hours, you will always have the same hours in AP, up to a maximum of a guaranteed 40 hours. Talk to your ETL about this before making a decision.
  • You get to learn a completely different side of retail that most people don't realize exists. You'll learn more about the back end of retail and the different processes that make the store tick, and why certain things are the way they are.
  • You'll get to learn some interesting technology, like the camera system, and the various different online reports AP uses to investigste shrink.
  • While you will have daily routines to complete every day, every day also has the potential to offer you a new situation. From a theft, to an argument between guests, to an incident in the parking lot, there's always potential for something to happen to change up the day.
  • If you call out or can't work a shift, the store won't grind to a halt without you. While that's not an excuse to not show up for work, you don't have to worry about angry LOD's looking at you because the zone didn't get done as a result of your call out.
Some cons:
  • Sometimes you'll get backed up with everything that goes on, and have a lot on your plate. I once had 7 incidents take place in a single shift. I couldn't get more than 5 minutes into my investigations without being called out again.
  • Sometimes absolutely nothing happens. While that doesn't sound like a bad thing, if all of your routines are done and there's truly no busy work for you to do, you'll just be standing at the doors/front lanes.
  • You can't get distracted easily. On a slow day it's easy to get bored and play on your phone, but in that 60 seconds of goofing off, something can walk out the door. While you can't catch everyone, it's disappointing to know you got beat for merch while playing on your phone. I was guilty of this one when I first started, and it's a lesson learned.
  • You can't make apprehensions, only try to deter theft.
  • This might not be a con for you, but you'll need to confront people with dishonest intentions, who will lie to you, and use your best judgement on how to handle the situation. I'll explain more below.

3. I understand a bit about the position, but what would I effectively do? I'm sure there would be training for this, but hearing it now would help me a lot! For example, what would I do if I suspect someone of taking merchandise or if a fellow TM suspects someone of taking merchandise?

3 - Target as a company mainly wants the TPS to be the face of security, and in part, guest service, for our honest guests. They want TPS's standing near the front lanes and doors for the majority of their shift to deter shoplifting (which I'll tell you, it only deters the low level amateurs, not the pros) and help those walking in. That being said, some ETL's don't buy into that and will actually give you the freedom to catch bad guys. Your daily routines would consist of counting and auditing merchandise counts, applying merchandise protection, reviewing video from empty packages, and lookong for theft. In the event you observe a theft in progress or a team member suspects a guest is stealing, as a TPS, if you're alone at the time, your job would be to attempt to recover the merchandise by confrontng the subject and trying to get them to drop what they're stealing, usually by offering extreme guest service. For example, if someone is concealing headphones, corporate wants you to say something like "Hi there, I saw you were looking at headphones. Did you need help with those? Did you want a basket to carry that pair you had?" That being said, sometimes you've gotta break the rules a little bit and be more direct to get results. "Take those headphones out of your pocket, and get out of my store." Just gotta be sure you're 110% certain before approaching and being that direct, as if you're wrong and you're accusing an honest person, you're fucked.


4. How difficult is the job? In terms of stress level to the amount of work you need to put in (to put it into perspective, compare it to hardlines).

4 - It's challenging, but rewarding. You get to go home everyday knowing you helped keep people safe. In comparison to Hardlines, it's much more difficult. While Hardlines is responsible for just helping out and making the store look nice, the AP team has to pick out the few dishonest guests out of the hundreds of honest ones. The amount of work you'll do every day is comparable to any other work center, it's just the type of work and the difficulty of it that changes. Opposed to trying to push a ton CAF's in an hour, you're trying to identify who stole the merchandise out of two empty packages.

All things considered, I love my job and I'm glad I moved up to AP. The occasional headache is worth it. I suggest trying to sit down with your ETL-AP and asking them some of these questions to get another view. Feel free to PM me or ask again here with any other questions! Best of luck either way! :)

Also, I'm gonna call in @TallAPGuy and @garbage for some backup here. Any other advice, guys?
 
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First of all, congratulations for being considered for Asset Protection. In my opinon, it's one of the best jobs in the store. First off, a few basics. Asset Protection = the entire security team, made of ETL-AP's, APTL's, APS's, and TPS's. ETL's and APTL's are fairly self explanatory. APS's, or Asset Protection Specialists, are undercover team members who blend in with the guests to observe people and make apprehensions. TPS's, or Target Protection Specialists, wear the blue security uniform. We deter theft by being a visible security presence in the store, and responding to general security and safety issues. If you are just starting out in AP, it's a 99% chance you'll be a TPS.



1 - Not an issue. This job is more about brains than brawns. You need to be able think through tricky situations. Having some muscle behind you to help make tricky apprehensions wouldn't hurt, but it's not a big enough role of AP to warrant concern. Apprehensions shouldn't be getting that violent anyway.



2 - I was in the same situation. I started as a Hardlines TM making $9.00/hr, and promoted to TPS right around review time, and went up to $11.30 something. Part of that was also due to base pay being raised to $10, but regardless. Most TPS positions start at around $11.00/hr. Some more pros:
  • Your hours are guaranteed so long as you are doing your job. While the Hardlines team will be fighting to get more hours, you will always have the same hours in AP, up to a maximum of a guaranteed 40 hours. Talk to your ETL about this before making a decision.
  • You get to learn a completely different side of retail that most people don't realize exists. You'll learn more about the back end of retail and the different processes that make the store tick, and why certain things are the way they are.
  • You'll get to learn some interesting technology, like the camera system, and the various different online reports AP uses to investigste shrink.
  • While you will have daily routines to complete every day, every day also has the potential to offer you a new situation. From a theft, to an argument between guests, to an incident in the parking lot, there's always potential for something to happen to change up the day.
  • If you call out or can't work a shift, the store won't grind to a halt without you. While that's not an excuse to not show up for work, you don't have to worry about angry LOD's looking at you because the zone didn't get done as a result of your call out.
Some cons:
  • Sometimes you'll get backed up with everything that goes on, and have a lot on your plate. I once had 7 incidents take place in a single shift. I couldn't get more than 5 minutes into my investigations without being called out again.
  • Sometimes absolutely nothing happens. While that doesn't sound like a bad thing, if all of your routines are done and there's truly no busy work for you to do, you'll just be standing at the doors/front lanes.
  • You can't get distracted easily. On a slow day it's easy to get bored and play on your phone, but in that 60 seconds of goofing off, something can walk out the door. While you can't catch everyone, it's disappointing to know you got beat for merch while playing on your phone. I was guilty of this one when I first started, and it's a lesson learned.
  • You can't make apprehensions, only try to deter theft.
  • This might not be a con for you, but you'll need to confront people with dishonest intentions, who will lie to you, and use your best judgement on how to handle the situation. I'll explain more below.



3 - Target as a company mainly wants the TPS to be the face of security, and in part, guest service, for our honest guests. They want TPS's standing near the front lanes and doors for the majority of their shift to deter shoplifting (which I'll tell you, it only deters the low level amateurs, not the pros) and help those walking in. That being said, some ETL's don't buy into that and will actually give you the freedom to catch bad guys. Your daily routines would consist of counting and auditing merchandise counts, applying merchandise protection, reviewing video from empty packages, and lookong for theft. In the event you observe a theft in progress or a team member suspects a guest is stealing, as a TPS, if you're alone at the time, your job would be to attempt to recover the merchandise by confrontng the subject and trying to get them to drop what they're stealing, usually by offering extreme guest service. For example, if someone is concealing headphones, corporate wants you to say something like "Hi there, I saw you were looking at headphones. Did you need help with those? Did you want a basket to carry that pair you had?" That being said, sometimes you've gotta break the rules a little bit and be more direct to get results. "Take those headphones out of your pocket, and get out of my store." Just gotta be sure you're 110% certain before approaching and being that direct, as if you're wrong and you're accusing an honest person, you're fucked.




4 - It's challenging, but rewarding. You get to go home everyday knowing you helped keep people safe. In comparison to Hardlines, it's much more difficult. While Hardlines is responsible for just helping out and making the store look nice, the AP team has to pick out the few dishonest guests out of the hundreds of honest ones. The amount of work you'll do every day is comparable to any other work center, it's just the type of work and the difficulty of it that changes. Opposed to trying to push a ton CAF's in an hour, you're trying to identify who stole the merchandise out of two empty packages.

All things considered, I love my job and I'm glad I moved up to AP. The occasional headache is worth it. I suggest trying to sit down with your ETL-AP and asking them some of these questions to get another view. Feel free to PM me or ask again here with any other questions! Best of luck either way! :)

Also, I'm gonna call in @TallAPGuy and @garbage for some backup here. Any other advice, guys?
Where do u analyze the trash from the carts. What % is like merch packaging?
 
Where do u analyze the trash from the carts. What % is like merch packaging?
He/she is AP , so not that smart, also he/she is AP so finding anything other than trash in carts is impossible for them.

I take it you really dislike like AP, judging by these posts. Sorry that you feel that way! However, to offer a serious reply to that question, cart trash is worthless to me.
 
TPS is a great learning opportunity. Your APS/ETL-AP/APTL will teach you a ton, and work to communicate effectively to keep you safe. You will, at most, assist with apprehensions. Your focus is on tracking theft trends and assisting with identifying and tracking theft subjects. The one making the apprehensions will teach you how to react and what they expect of you. Safety and control are the key to apprehensions, if it gets out of hand, you disengage. If this is something that interests you, it would be worth a hard look.
 
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I take it you really dislike like AP, judging by these posts. Sorry that you feel that way! However, to offer a serious reply to that question, cart trash is worthless to me.
I don't dislike AP. I have an offensive sense of humor. I know , I know, it's not funny, to you, but , it's my sense of humor.
I was an AP once, never saw any action... so I guess I got jaded. Now in Plano it's alot more exciting. You got your shelves, you got your pegs , your fastbacks, your L shaped safety fixture. Where do these all fit man? Where do they all belong!
Got goosebumps
 
Thanks ya'll for your input! I'll definitely have a sit down with my ETL AP to get some more information.
 
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