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pellinore

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Since our store did its pfresh remodel, our theft rate seems to be going up. I think that moving guest service closer to the registers has given people a lot of chances to get stuff in carts and walk out the "enter" door.

Has anyone else noticed any changes in theft after their remodel?
 
Then again last I heard a lot of stores eliminated or consolidated their AP teams?
 
We've only got one AP tm in our store. He can only work 40 hours a week...so that leaves a lot of time without an AP.
 
A lot of shoplifters are noticing the smaller AP presence. We just had two runs today. I bet SPOT still believes the removed AP payroll will cover most loss.
 
A lot of shoplifters are noticing the smaller AP presence. We just had two runs today. I bet SPOT still believes the removed AP payroll will cover most loss.

Do you think that is not true? That is fairly basic math and I am sure T@rget has crunched the numbers. Total theft just needs to be lower than the cost of insurance, payroll, and liability (that's a hard number to measure) of every AP position cut across the company. Remember when doing the math, it's what T@rget paid for the merch, not what it's sold for.

Did I really just type this? It sounds like something a 7th grader would type. *Post Reply*
 
Across our district I have seen a huge jump in push-outs. Softlines, TV's, cleaning supplies. Team Members always say, "Why would you do something like that?"

I just say, "Because it's easy."

If I have two days off in a row it just means I'll be spending my first day back typing on TCM.
 
Across our district I have seen a huge jump in push-outs. Softlines, TV's, cleaning supplies. Team Members always say, "Why would you do something like that?"

I just say, "Because it's easy."

If I have two days off in a row it just means I'll be spending my first day back typing on TCM.
True Story.
 
A lot of shoplifters are noticing the smaller AP presence. We just had two runs today. I bet SPOT still believes the removed AP payroll will cover most loss.

Do you think that is not true? That is fairly basic math and I am sure T@rget has crunched the numbers. Total theft just needs to be lower than the cost of insurance, payroll, and liability (that's a hard number to measure) of every AP position cut across the company. Remember when doing the math, it's what T@rget paid for the merch, not what it's sold for.

Did I really just type this? It sounds like something a 7th grader would type. *Post Reply*

When a store routinely has Dysons and TVs pushed out the front door or the fire doors I don't think the $9-10 an hour TPS guy was getting paid more than we are losing. That's not counting the spike in tags at the fitting room, the empty CD cases, and other small thefts that have come up as empty packages that have ballooned. Since our store lost TPS coverage our empty package bin is completely filled every two days or so. Before when we had TPS coverage our TPS would empty about once a month.
 
A lot of shoplifters are noticing the smaller AP presence. We just had two runs today. I bet SPOT still believes the removed AP payroll will cover most loss.

Do you think that is not true? That is fairly basic math and I am sure T@rget has crunched the numbers. Total theft just needs to be lower than the cost of insurance, payroll, and liability (that's a hard number to measure) of every AP position cut across the company. Remember when doing the math, it's what T@rget paid for the merch, not what it's sold for.

Did I really just type this? It sounds like something a 7th grader would type. *Post Reply*

When a store routinely has Dysons and TVs pushed out the front door or the fire doors I don't think the $9-10 an hour TPS guy was getting paid more than we are losing. That's not counting the spike in tags at the fitting room, the empty CD cases, and other small thefts that have come up as empty packages that have ballooned. Since our store lost TPS coverage our empty package bin is completely filled every two days or so. Before when we had TPS coverage our TPS would empty about once a month.

Once a month...no way.
 
That's really how it used to be. We are a ULV store and we used to an APTL and two TPS team members in a relatively crime free suburb. Our store loss was really under control, Target then decided that since it was so under control that they would rape our AP team and now we have in my estimation somewhere between 5-7 thousand dollars more in loss than we used to each month.
 
Its hard to calculate how much AP saves, its easy to look at a report and say they had these many externals, internals, and known pmr's. Maybe not now but in the past, how about targets reputation as having the best camera system, personal galore with plain clothes and uniform security. How much do you think that drove people away from stealing at Target and instead going to wal-mart or somewhere else where they didn't have a reputation to stop people stealing.

Lets say I had $8,000 dollars in proven recovered dollars last year. (I have no idea what i actually had) That is less then they paid me, but what if by me just being there walking around putting spider wire and EAS stickers on stuff that got missed coming off the truck saved thousands of dollars that could have walked out the door if it were easier for someone to get away with. What if by me standing talking to the electronics person about new movie releases for 5 minutes deterred some teenagers from stealing a few movies and I didn't even know it. It wouldn't have been on a report, it just would have happened.
 
I'm guessing it's like this.
What you're seeing in terms of loss is retail, not what it actually cost them so that would make some difference.
They are covered by insurance (I assume) so some of that loss will be mitigated.

The paychecks are only part of what the people cost.
There are health insurance (what little they pay out these days), unemployment, and other assorted costs.
The holiday pay, sick pay (if you're in state that requires it) and vacation pay.

Also this is averaged over all the stores.
Some stores might not be losing at the same rate your stores are.
So for now the number crunchers have proof that Spot is saving money.

However I suspect that down the river the canoe is going to take a sharp swing to other side and they will start hiring people again because, you know, losses.
 
You can say not to count the retail price, but not only are we losing the money Target paid for it, but also the money we could have made from a sale.

When Dysons, TVs and the like are being shoved out the door because there is no uniform to deter theft then something is wrong.
 
Having spent nearly six years within AP, i can honestly say that these dramatic cuts to the payroll of Assets Protection is ultimately going to cost Target HUGE bucks!! Lets take a look at the past year-- First, they had a lot of restructuring of Investigations (Plain clothes AP/Intelligence Center). They restructured the roles of the Investigations Specialist (IS) and reduced the roles/eliminated the positions. These were the people that get sent to stores in plain clothes to apprehend shoplifters that cause LARGE amounts of shortage to the company, usually affecting multiple stores (aka Boosters). This also affected the hierarchy above the IS role, including the Investigators (IS' bosses) and their role in managing their teams (now that they're virtually non-existent). The communication centers (IC's) then got severally understaffed.. the reporting is NON-EXISTENT! They fail to stay on top of trends, alert stores, collect data effectively, and really took such a huge step backwards that it's like they're practically not even there. Then, the company downsized the AP Business Partner role (APBP) and gave an even larger workload to an already overwhelming position.. now with the APBP's left, you're seeing them struggling to over several districts (vs 1 or 2 in past) and cannot possibly effectively manage it all. Then you add the extra workload for the ETL-AP, including extra LOD shifts due to the severe ETL/TL cuts & restructuring at the store level, and that gives the ETL-AP even less time to work in their own department (not that they had much time before) when they're busy managing the store. And we finally get to the TPS position-- the backbone in every store. The TPS' are essentially all that's left in: A) Identifying theft, B) Documenting it, C) Preventing/Resolving it. Now with many TPS' out of the picture, there is less staff to educate the store-side teams, to add merchandise protection, to build relationships with law enforcement, to communicate to other stores (since investigations is finished), and handle all the day-to-day tasks like receipt lookups, guest service calls, team member problems, security incidents, ect. Not only are all these cuts ultimately going to really hurt target's profitability, BUT they will ruin the relationships with the communities they're entrusted in, make AP unreliable, and diminish the safely inside the stores our guests have come to expect. It's much more than just numbers and metrics. Just wait until you need AP assistance and you call the LOD who has no clue about AP whatsoever, and tells you they can't do anything about it. Target has NEVER made such drastic cuts to AP hours and staffing.. maybe they can fake a few metrics here and there, but ultimately I can promise you that it will catch up to the company and they will see a losses on a scale never seen before. It will eat away at the company's profits and limit the number of actual sales (due to merch getting stolen). I hope they reconsider what they're doing because it's certainly not in the long-term interest of the company.
 
I hope they reconsider what they're doing because it's certainly not in the long-term interest of the company.

Unfortunately nothing that Gregg has done since he has taken over is for the long-term interest of the company. Every indication from his actions is that he is only looking out for the short-term interest of his own personal assets. The company has taken steps back each year since he was promoted.
 
Unfortunately nothing that Gregg has done since he has taken over is for the long-term interest of the company. Every indication from his actions is that he is only looking out for the short-term interest of his own personal assets. The company has taken steps back each year since he was promoted.

Im just counting the days til Gregg bails with his golden parachute after leaving the company in complete shambles
 
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