Just curious if anyone here has left Target for Walmart or vice versa and what the experience was like. I've heard many a horror story, but things are so bad at my store I don't see how things could be worse at Walmart. I'm gonna have an interview for a neighborhood market that's opening soon (for an actual management position and not in name only like GSA) and even if they offer me slightly less I'm 95% sure I would take the offer.
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We had a TM go to Sam's Club. After two weeks she came running back here. Luckily she completed her two week notice and we were happy to have her back.
Was she a cashier moving into another cashier role there? I always imagined they had it bad at Sam's Club as they are perpetually overwhelmed at checkout. Like worse than anywhere else...like I'm surprised they don't be two hours late getting out finishing checking people out.
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She was flow who went to the overnight stocking. She said the extra $$$ wasn't worth it.
OK I'm not sure I could buy her story. Flow at Target and Walmart has super high expectations and Sam's Club is closed overnight too so I'm curious what she's bitching about. Maybe she thought it was gonna be easier and more money and when she saw it wasn't easier she decided the devil she knew was better than the one she didn't.
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She said it was a completely different culture. She said Target in general treated their employees much better...more accommodating, more like actual human beings. I don't know. She came back to us as a GSA so who knows.
This girl clearly ain't worked as GSA before...girl can't no one on the face of this Earth say they treat you worse than GSAs there. They would have to literally tie us to a pull and give us 10 lashes for it to be worse.
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We have a bunch of people who have come from Walmart at my store. They seem to like it more. Idk what they did at Walmart though. A lot of them are on flow now. I trained a guy from Walmart for instocks and he was Terrible. We fired him less than a month later
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ASANTS. GSA's get treated pretty well by our store. Management are all pretty much opposed to how underpaid GSA's are, but they can't really do much other than be empathetic. Plus all of the ETL's usually appreciate everything that we deal with, so it's actually a pretty sweet gig at my store.
It also helps that we get $11/hr.
If you are being hired as a department manager at walmart then it's not really a "manager" position. DM are glorified sales floor associates and you don't get to manage your sales floor associates, the assistant does that over that pad. DMs are in charge of there own in stocks, planograms, back stock and daily picks. When I say in charge, I mean you physically have to do this yourself. You also have morning audits, counts and price adjustments every day that can be in the 100s.
If you know what position you accepted I can give you more insight. I was an assistant manager for two years of operations. I've seen everything.
Well, first, ASANTS.
Next, management does have a say. They're false sympathing with you. We had an STL who believed in decent pay and bumped many a people up at any given time. I started at 12.50. I know in our area he could've got away with 9.50. He was empowered to do what he felt he should and did it. Like one HR TM at a transfer store told me I would get dropped down a good bit and that target doesn't do experience pay. I told her bitch you tried it...let me speak to your ETL.
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From what I understand our store used to give what they thought were "appropriate" wages but our DTL got replaced and the new one cracked down on that. This all happened before I got to my current store, that's just what I've been told by my STL.
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Are there TL, ETL equivalents at Wal Mart?
Sounds like he no longer cares about keeping good workers.
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Our DTL sent an email out a while back to all the stores reminding them Target does not pay experience pay to TMs and the stores are not to be bumping up TMs to higher wages beyond pay grade minimums and their yearly raises.
All districts are not the same.
Yes and no. I was an assistant manager, which is an ETL at target. I was operations; they are like mixture of ETL log/ETL GE/ETL HR. There are also assistants over fresh, consumables, fashion, hard lines and overnights. There are usually 9 assistants per store. About them is a co manager they are like store managers in training, usually 2-4 of them. Then the store manager.
There use to be zone managers, they were one step below assistants and one step about a department manager. They have cut that position in the last year. If a zone manager was trusted by thier assistant they could assist in write ups and schedules. Then there are department manages. Glorified TMs at target. All the responsibility but no authority. You don't get to write schedules or write any one up. DMs don't manage people they manage metrics in there departments.
But I thought there's CSMs and Supervisors too so are these guys just like on the same level of the food chain or what
CSM are like front end department managers. There are usually 5 of them and they run around like crazy giving money and overrides. CSM and DM are peers. There use to be supervisors, but walmart cut those positions EXCEPT for front end sup and backroom sup (depending on volume of store). A CSM and DM starting pay is 10-11 an hour, sups were at 13-14 an hour, assistant managers for non metro stores at 38k a year, assistant managers at metro stores 45k a year. Co managers at 70k and store managers make 100k plus.
Oh ok that's not so bad to hear. Aren't they relatively easy to promote and or transfer too
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So in other words he didn't care if they kept their good workers, he wanted to keep the payroll down.
Pretty much shows what Spots priorities are.
Are you talking CSMs? They use to be easy to promote into a zone supervisor (like a TL position) however now that they cut that program it's minimal chance on getting promoted. There use to be 5-9 sups per store, now down to 2.
You will never see a CSM get promoted into a assistant store manager role. Walmart also likes to hire externally for assistants. They don't require degrees, but you will need to have experience to go along with it.
I was an external hire for the assistant role. I was a store manager for a small store, and an ops manager at a larger store. I had an AA degree and had a year left on my BS.
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Maybe its ASANTS for the too, as well as still making changes, and different at a Neighborhood Market. The store manager and two of the four assistants were there. They said they are opening at least an additional five stores in the area within the next year. They're looking specifically for people who could be promoted and quickly. All of them claimed to have been promoted from different positions and that only me and one other guy were external supervisor hires, the rest are coming from local stores. Apparently with them they have various supervisors and the next level is ASM...no dept/csm/shift managers. They all were in agreement that unless they feel you can become an ASM in six months time then they weren't interested in you. I know full well this doesn't put anything in stone, but unless all of them are balled faced liars (but seemed like genuine and very friendly women) then I have to have a better chance than at Target. Worst case if time goes by and they don't live up to their promises I've always been good at finding out where the doors at.
You can beleive what you want. Just don't forget you will be fight for an ASM position from current assistant managers from both neighborhood market stores and regular store. For an assistnt to get promoted they need to be over almost every area, it's commen to transfer stores every 6 months. Then you will be fighting against external hires and internal promotions.
Them telling you they want people to be ready in 6 months is like dangeling a carrot in front of you. Yes it's different from target. But remember walmart attacks a certain kind of "clientele".
The grass is not always greener, but you will learn soon enough.
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