Archived reasons that target fires people

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StateofTarget said:
As a former TL, I can say that I constantly went after the worst TMs we had. I tried to get them out the door. Two things happened.

The first was a road block known as the ETLs. For example, when I was a GSTL I tried my hardest to get rid of cart attendant. The guy disappeared for hours, constantly let us run out of carts, outright refused to do the trash/restrooms, etc. Basically - did not do his job. Every single one of the ETLs at my store wouldn't let me do anything about him. All they would tell me was "Blah blah... if we get rid of him, guess what? We will just hire another one exactly like him and waste everyone's time. We can't get anyone but high school drop outs to do his job, so the next one won't be any better". So in other words, the ETLs wouldn't let me touch him.

The second was that some TMs were damn good about covering their tracks. They "knew the game" so to speak. Once they realized I was on to them, they learned how to make it difficult for me to get anything on them. I hate to say it, but it was actually good team members who protected them. Why? They refused to tell me what I pretty much knew was going on but couldn't get solid evidence because I wasn't there to see it. Unfortunately, TMs who were there to see it refused to admit they saw it or knew who was doing it.

Eventually I gave up out of frustration, and honestly that is what happens to most TLs. They really do try to get rid of these people, but eventually after trying countless times and nothing happens we are forced to give up. It just becomes a waste of our time.
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Forgot to add, i feel you on that! my etls would tell me my team members were horrible and needed to be fired but they would always cover their tracks. Finally after a year of documenting the team member blowing up and screaming at people on the floor it was enough to prove it was a pattern and get her termed. Ive never been so happy to see someone go!
 
My sister just got busted using my team member discount card. The cashiers ripped up the card and contacted my store. I got called into the office and gave my statement. Now i am wondering what's going to happen am i going to get fired???????
 
ptmobile said:
My sister just got busted using my team member discount card. The cashiers ripped up the card and contacted my store. I got called into the office and gave my statement. Now i am wondering what's going to happen am i going to get fired???????
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I am going to say this and I am dead serious - DO NOT GO BACK TO YOUR STORE EVER AGAIN.

Your job is over - you will be termed once you go to work for your next shift. There is zero chance you will not be termed for this. Also, this is also considered stealing from the company. More than likely AP will be involved. You will be brought in to an office and escorted out of the store by AP after they are done telling you that you are fired. Since another store called your store and have your sister on video using your card they will be forced to take action.

Just start looking for a new job, and don't show up for work. I am not even joking - it is a hugely embarrassing experience to be escorted out of the store in front of guests/TMs. Don't give them that satisfaction at your expense.
 
StateofTarget is lying to you lol. AP would only review video, and that's it. Discount abuse is an HR issue, NOT AP. You will not be escorted out by anybody. You'll probably get put on corrective action (assuming it's your first time). DO NOT NO CALL/NO SHOW!
 
StateofTarget said:
I am going to say this and I am dead serious - DO NOT GO BACK TO YOUR STORE EVER AGAIN.

Your job is over - you will be termed once you go to work for your next shift. There is zero chance you will not be termed for this. Also, this is also considered stealing from the company. More than likely AP will be involved. You will be brought in to an office and escorted out of the store by AP after they are done telling you that you are fired. Since another store called your store and have your sister on video using your card they will be forced to take action.

Just start looking for a new job, and don't show up for work. I am not even joking - it is a hugely embarrassing experience to be escorted out of the store in front of guests/TMs. Don't give them that satisfaction at your expense.
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Would it even matter if, for example as the TM didn't say, the sister stole the discount card out of the TM's wallet and used it without the TM's knowledge and consent?
 
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I have found out that the legal department has the same fine and distinguished decision making process that the rest of the company seems to follow when dealing with difficult situations.

None. As in they make it up as they go along.

Seriously, I have never known a group of people who make it so easy to sue them over this kind of stuff. At least other companies try to put up a tired defense of documenting bad behavior without linking it to a person's disability. In my case, they not only linked the firing to my disability, they then spelled it out as THE reason to fire me. My attorney and I sat down and he started laughing as the case went on and this is a direct quote:
Jesus Christ, these people have no idea what they are doing over there. They have been offered free training from us on how to deal with with this issue and they spat it back in our faces! Judges love that.
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Eventually three Target Investigative Specialists flew from headquarters and spent a month interviewing everybody at the store before they realized that I did indeed have a case against them. I received an apology from the Division, Group, District, and Store Leaders in short order.

Since then, my record is spotless.
 
talan123 said:
I have found out that the legal department has the same fine and distinguished decision making process that the rest of the company seems to follow when dealing with difficult situations.

None. As in they make it up as they go along.

Seriously, I have never known a group of people who make it so easy to sue them over this kind of stuff. At least other companies try to put up a tired defense of documenting bad behavior without linking it to a person's disability. In my case, they not only linked the firing to my disability, they then spelled it out as THE reason to fire me. My attorney and I sat down and he started laughing as the case went on and this is a direct quote:

Eventually three Target Investigative Specialists flew from headquarters and spent a month interviewing everybody at the store before they realized that I did indeed have a case against them. I received an apology from the Division, Group, District, and Store Leaders in short order.

Since then, my record is spotless.
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After all that hassle (and obvious discrimination), why would you even want to continue working there?
 
Thinktank90 said:
After all that hassle (and obvious discrimination), why would you even want to continue working there?
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If he didn't at least try to fight it (let alone win), his firing would've looked bad to other employers and would likely have kept him from getting another job. Plus, there's that whole pay and benefits thing.
 
mrknownothing said:
If he didn't at least try to fight it (let alone win), his firing would've looked bad to other employers and would likely have kept him from getting another job. Plus, there's that whole pay and benefits thing.
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I know you didn't just say that! Everybody here goes to work at target day in and day out for the fast, fun, and friendly culture!
 
It was a disgusting attempt at humor. I'm sorry guys. I would light myself on fire before I would ever be an ETL. I wouldn't do it for all of King Midas's silver.
 
redeye58 said:
Target doesn't have enough in total assets to pay me to EVER be an ETL.
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Why? It is a sweet gig. 50K a year, get to keep the good health insurance plans they are taking from TMs/TLs, don't have to worry about hours, no time clock, guaranteed vacation/PH time, get to be the boss, every other weekend off, good work history to use for other jobs, get to hang out in an office and tell a TL to run the show if you are having a bad day, etc.

I would take it in an instant.
 
StateofTarget said:
Why? It is a sweet gig. 50K a year, get to keep the good health insurance plans they are taking from TMs/TLs, don't have to worry about hours, no time clock, guaranteed vacation/PH time, get to be the boss, every other weekend off, good work history to use for other jobs, get to hang out in an office and tell a TL to run the show if you are having a bad day, etc.

I would take it in an instant.
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But at what cost?
 
mrknownothing said:
Oh yeah? Well I wouldn't sell you your gym back for all of King Midas's silver.
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While silver is worth something it is not what King Midas got.......All he touched turned to gold.....including his lovely daughter.
 
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