Archived AE2013 discussion

[redeye58]

Time to run screaming into the night.....

 

[stupid rules]

I have found out some of the information for AE13 in regards to store structure.

 

[AssetsProtection]

I have found out some of the information for AE13 in regards to store structure.

Tell us then lol.

 

[Target Annie]

I have found out some of the information for AE13 in regards to store structure.

is there a place to insert coins to get you to speak 1 truth per coin?

 

[stupid rules]

Here's an even better idea, help me get this word document from read only so I can post it.

 

[The Mule]

Here's an even better idea, help me get this word document from read only so I can post it.

Well, there is one sure fire method, but we're talking old school and Rube Goldberg long here:

Open document>Hit "Print Screen" button>Open MS Paint>Control-V to paste>Save file as .jpg>Right click on file and print.

Now with that said though, I'd still be a little hesitant about posting too much info here, especially on things that might not be widely dispersed yet and tracked down.

 

[AssetsProtection]

Well, there is one sure fire method, but we're talking old school and Rube Goldberg long here:

Open document>Hit "Print Screen" button>Open MS Paint>Control-V to paste>Save file as .jpg>Right click on file and print.

Now with that said though, I'd still be a little hesitant about posting too much info here, especially on things that might not be widely dispersed yet and tracked down.

Right click on the file, click Properties, and uncheck read-only might be another way. Make sure you check apply after that.

 

[PricingMaster]

I'm wondering what cuts will be made (if any). Hopefully there won't be any TL cuts.

 

[Albusmc]

No significant changes I've heard. No need to speculate and worry eachother till we know for sure.

 

[redeye58]

Yeh, that's real reassuring after the cuts from the last 3 yrs....

 

[TheWanderer]

Yeh, that's real reassuring after the cuts from the last 3 yrs....

Well, the economy is actually turning around. Jobs are consistently being created (albeit slowly at some points) and people are spending more and more. When the economy is down, they can afford to cut TL and Specialist positions and still keep good talent on-hand, because there aren't other jobs elsewhere for the good workers to go to. With the economy on the upturn, I wouldn't be too surprised to see some of those positions beginning to come back, as they'll have to offer the right incentives to keep that same talent from jumping ship to newly created jobs elsewhere.

Of course, they could always prove me wrong, but I think that would be a bad move for 2013.

 

[redeye58]

Of course, they could always prove me wrong, but I think that would be a bad move for 2013.

Sounds like spot.
Every yr we're told that we're over head-count for TLs. Every yr we lose another one & we're A+ volume.
Seriously, our store (& TMs/TLs at other stores I've talked to) doesn't seem interested in retaining talent. Their reasoning has always been that it's better to ditch higher-paid, experienced personnel for a newbie. They're cheaper, haven't yet become cynical & are easier to mold.
The only position rumored to be restored isn't even a floor position.

 

[stupid rules]

Following The Mules advice. I do have a link to the images if certain people want to view what is currently in place.
With that said these are some of the changes.

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Org chart 4 possibly moving dayside.
Logistics Gm and PFresh = +1 ETL org 7, -1 ETL org 9 // +1 TL org 8, - 1 TL org 9, 11, 12
Logistics Super Target = +1 ETL org 7, -1 ETL org 9 // +1 TL org 8, - 1 TL org 9, 11, 12

Food = Maximum of 1 TL per perishable department. (so that would be 1 for bakery, 1 for meat instead of 3 for meat, etc.)
Possible lose of 2 or 4 TL depending upon food org chart, PA is now based off of perishables sells instead of store sales
Head count changes - 72 TL, +263 PA

Some info on TLs for HR, AP, RX

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1 statement in there is to add 8 additional hours for the RxTL to perform leadership tasks...wtf are my god damn hours to perform leadership tasks instead of being a high paid TM.

 

[RankOne]

Following The Mules advice. I do have a link to the images if certain people want to view what is currently in place.
With that said these are some of the changes.

--------------------------------
Org chart 4 possibly moving dayside.
Logistics Gm and PFresh = +1 ETL org 7, -1 ETL org 9 // +1 TL org 8, - 1 TL org 9, 11, 12
Logistics Super Target = +1 ETL org 7, -1 ETL org 9 // +1 TL org 8, - 1 TL org 9, 11, 12

Food = Maximum of 1 TL per perishable department. (so that would be 1 for bakery, 1 for meat instead of 3 for meat, etc.)
Possible lose of 2 or 4 TL depending upon food org chart, PA is now based off of perishables sells instead of store sales
Head count changes - 72 TL, +263 PA

Some info on TLs for HR, AP, RX

----------------------------
1 statement in there is to add 8 additional hours for the RxTL to perform leadership tasks...wtf are my god damn hours to perform leadership tasks instead of being a high paid TM.

Can you post more about the APTL changes? Or PM me the images.

 

[redeye58]

Thanx, S-R.
Very interesting.

 

[AssetsProtection]

Seems legit.

 

[HRTL]

What info is there in reference to HR?

 

[StaticSun]

What info is there in reference to HR?

As per my first post:

ETL-HR/HR-TL will be moving into an overnight or partial overnight role at the highest volume stores.

 

[StateofTarget]

As per my first post:

ETL-HR/HR-TL will be moving into an overnight or partial overnight role at the highest volume stores.

This is why you don't believe rumors....

There is absolutely zero reason for a HR-TL to be in the store during overnight hours. Zero. With the possible exception of making the HR-TL a key carrier and having them run flow, there is zero reason for it. If there was a need for another TL to run flow, HR-TL would be last on the list of TLs in the store to do it.

ETL-HR *could* be overnight to run flow..... there would be no point in this, however. Again, ETL-HR would be last on the list of all TLs in the store to go overnight. It would be much more logical to have ETL-HL/SL or even ETL-GE go overnight before the ETL-HR.

 

[Rock Lobster]

This is why you don't believe rumors....

There is absolutely zero reason for a HR-TL to be in the store during overnight hours. Zero. With the possible exception of making the HR-TL a key carrier and having them run flow, there is zero reason for it. If there was a need for another TL to run flow, HR-TL would be last on the list of TLs in the store to do it.

ETL-HR *could* be overnight to run flow..... there would be no point in this, however. Again, ETL-HR would be last on the list of all TLs in the store to go overnight. It would be much more logical to have ETL-HL/SL or even ETL-GE go overnight before the ETL-HR.

In the highest volume stores I doubt it would be so they could run the daily operations of flow... Its probably more from a culture or morale standpoint to require an ETL-HR to help out with the overnight part of everything! That is a TON of TMs who work opposite shifts of their HR rep, and they probably never see him or her...

 

[stupid rules]

This is why you don't believe rumors....

There is absolutely zero reason for a HR-TL to be in the store during overnight hours. Zero. With the possible exception of making the HR-TL a key carrier and having them run flow, there is zero reason for it. If there was a need for another TL to run flow, HR-TL would be last on the list of TLs in the store to do it.

ETL-HR *could* be overnight to run flow..... there would be no point in this, however. Again, ETL-HR would be last on the list of all TLs in the store to go overnight. It would be much more logical to have ETL-HL/SL or even ETL-GE go overnight before the ETL-HR.

This is why you don't listen to disgruntled ex-team members who think they ****ing know everything but don't have a clue.

 

[StateofTarget]

This is why you don't listen to disgruntled ex-team members who think they ****ing know everything but don't have a clue.

Ex-team leader. Please get it right.

And not disgruntled.... just have the balls to call it like I see it.

 

[mrknownothing]

In the highest volume stores I doubt it would be so they could run the daily operations of flow... Its probably more from a culture or morale standpoint to require an ETL-HR to help out with the overnight part of everything! That is a TON of TMs who work opposite shifts of their HR rep, and they probably never see him or her...

This. Overnight TMs should be able to have access to their HR. I can see having an HR TM overnight on a regular or semi-regular basis, but not necessarily the HR TL or ETL-HR - though they could do an occasional overnight so the flow team knows that they really do exist.

 

[fatmoo]

^^ This. I never see my etl or etl-hr because of the shifts I work. So when I put in an availability request and it's denied with the note "Please see me," I am well and truly ****ed. At the very least this is a nice gesture to the overnight team.

 

[StaticSun]

This is why you don't believe rumors....

There is absolutely zero reason for a HR-TL to be in the store during overnight hours. Zero. With the possible exception of making the HR-TL a key carrier and having them run flow, there is zero reason for it. If there was a need for another TL to run flow, HR-TL would be last on the list of TLs in the store to do it.

ETL-HR *could* be overnight to run flow..... there would be no point in this, however. Again, ETL-HR would be last on the list of all TLs in the store to go overnight. It would be much more logical to have ETL-HL/SL or even ETL-GE go overnight before the ETL-HR.

Seriously, shut up. There was a document on sharepoint (most likely on HROps, I believe) which outlined the costs, scenarios, and projected wins/opps for doing so. Please please please pull your head out of your butthole.