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I had a lovely sit down with my STL the other day and one of the things that we talked about is the way that Target is going to start doing promotions. TL to ETL promotions are going to become MUCH more common. As a matter of fact it has already started. I am friends with an ETL from an 'A' volume store in our district and his store just lost 5 TL's to ETL promotions. Hows that for encouraging?!? So for all of you that think you don't have a chance, just do your job and you'll be the boss before you know it.
 

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I had a lovely sit down with my STL the other day and one of the things that we talked about is the way that Target is going to start doing promotions. TL to ETL promotions are going to become MUCH more common. As a matter of fact it has already started. I am friends with an ETL from an 'A' volume store in our district and his store just lost 5 TL's to ETL promotions. Hows that for encouraging?!? So for all of you that think you don't have a chance, just do your job and you'll be the boss before you know it.
HA HA HA HA....

I need that laugh, thank you.
 

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They are just now starting...:eek:
Shouldn't that have always been policy from the beginning.
 
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

There have been a couple who have promoted out of our store. One doesn't want it, one who does, and another who is definitely NOT ready even though he is a SrTL. I would take it however I haven't finished college and was told that it wasn't going to happen because Target was only promoting TLs who had degrees. So, if I wanted to get my degree that would be helpful but I am not allowed to change my availability in order to make that happen....

Reading this forum makes me wonder just how far out of the loop we are.:(
 
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:facepalm: not a lot of difference that will make at my store. The TLs are just as inept as everyone else. Half the time I find myself carrying on my TLs duties in his absence just like I did when the previous one was moved and then quit. Ironically I don't even want the promotion to TL now because no one in store management has the ability to positively change the operation of the store back into the old school Target.
 

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#6
We've had some internal promotions at our store and both of the them are decent sorts.
However they both fit into the glee club/cheerleader/quarterback, team.
Since they are getting trained by the very people who are causing the pain I don't see this as a big help at least not right away.
 
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#7
I wish that was the case in my district. External promotions are preferred over internal promotions for ETLs and for TLs.
 
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There have been alot of internal promotions in my district as well, (5-7) So far this year, I'm about half way through the interview process as well
 
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Eventually, all districts will be this way. We just got a brand spankin new DTL and he has made it very clear what Target's new stance on promoting within. He is well ahead of the curve. His track record with internal promotions is strong. I'm excited to have him!
 

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I'd love to see that at my store.
Currently, the only way to move up from TL to ETL is to another store. All our ETLs are external hires &, while some are good & catch on fast, others are less than stellar.
 
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If true, that's great. You would obviously be moved outside of your store, they frown upon that kind of movement within the store I believe. Hopefully you'd be moved within your district. People with experience working the floor/knowing Target's best practices deserve the opportunity.
 
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If true, that's great. You would obviously be moved outside of your store, they frown upon that kind of movement within the store I believe. Hopefully you'd be moved within your district. People with experience working the floor/knowing Target's best practices deserve the opportunity.
With the tighter budgets that Target is currently operating under, this makes great sense. Promotions would be inside your district, but outside of your store. I have never heard a of a TL to ETL promotion inside a store. Is that even possible??
 
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This will give away my store to anyone from there who reads it but we had an ETL go to STL and stay in store AND we have had a TM go to TL to ETL and stay in the store.
 
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This was mentioned by our STL in a meeting last week as well, about more focus on internal promotions. Our store has already been focusing on it a lot, and for good reason, the last outside hire-in to SrTL went down in flames, so maybe (hopefully) there's some truth to it.
 

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It's not that we don't believe you but often times those policies are quickly reversed or reasons are made up not to enforce said policies.

Frankly, there just isn't any trust when it comes to corporate.
 

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Believe me, Insiteful1, it would be fantastic if Target returned to that policy! We've talked about such common sense policies in past threads, unfortunately it was under "things I miss" or "remember when?".
 
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We have had a couple of internal promotions lately. However it does seem that we now have more Chiefs than Indians. There are six regular TLs and five Senior TLs.

And Ya'll ain't needen to give that there team member grief over the way he done learnt to talk.

BTW, I'm from the south too. ;)
 
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...and most of the east coast drops 'r's altogether...:D
Sometimes, they even eat their "t"s. I'm guilty of that too.
It's great to see Target realize that the best people to promote are already working at Target. I had an ETL who worked his way through the ranks and he was the only one who lasted the full 18 months of the ETL-LOG rotation. The rest (new hires) either quit or got fired before reaching the end of the 18 months.
I never thought ETL-LOG was a position for new hires (especially at an overnight store), but I guess it depends on their background.
 

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We have had a couple of internal promotions lately. However it does seem that we now have more Chiefs than Indians. There are six regular TLs and five Senior TLs.

Why are there 5 Sr. TL's. My store only has and needs 3. Are you guys super low volume? Super high volume? Super Target? Is there no ETLs in your building? That just sounds crazy to me but I don't know anything about your store. Are they all key carriers and do LOD shifts?
 

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We have had a couple of internal promotions lately. However it does seem that we now have more Chiefs than Indians. There are six regular TLs and five Senior TLs.

Why are there 5 Sr. TL's. My store only has and needs 3. Are you guys super low volume? Super high volume? Super Target? Is there no ETLs in your building? That just sounds crazy to me but I don't know anything about your store. Are they all key carriers and do LOD shifts?
5 Seniors is only slightly excessive... Most stores should have a total of 8 key carriers... So the STL, ETL-HR, ETL-SF, ETL-LOG... That leaves 4 Senior TLs at ULV stores... So they only have 1 extra really!
 
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#33
Ya'll act like I made my original post up. It's the concrete truth. There is no 'maybe' or 'hopefully' about it.
Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as though you were making it up, I simply meant hopefully it is actually trending company wide, and not just a few stores or districts. ;)
 

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#34
I have to be honest, I am noticing a trend of more internal promotions within my own district as well... I have seen 3 TLs make it to ETL within the last few months (they had just gotten their degrees though, which outweighs the fact that they were TLs) and I know of a few more on their way up using the same path... I have NOT seen any TLs get promoted without recently getting their degrees however, so that front has not changed...
 
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I have to be honest, I am noticing a trend of more internal promotions within my own district as well... I have seen 3 TLs make it to ETL within the last few months (they had just gotten their degrees though, which outweighs the fact that they were TLs) and I know of a few more on their way up using the same path... I have NOT seen any TLs get promoted without recently getting their degrees however, so that front has not changed...
How much do u think having the degree outweighs being a TL because my STL has already said during round robins the STL's doing the interview want to see u have GREEN numbers.
 
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It's BS in my group. We only promote a TL that is AMAZING with a new degree, or we put cheerleaders almost there into the intern program. It's depressing. My bosses are idiots. I'd love to see any of my ETLs be a assistant manager in a walmart, where they actually do some sales.
 
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#39
we had a tm rehire a few months ago who really flew through the ranks, from nonrehireable to hireable to srtl(she is degreed). she talks down to her team and peers and spends her time flirtin with our etl or sitting on her butt at tsc. but i digress... she is now going to become the etlhr at another store.
i wish her all the luck in the world! yay internals!! :thumbsup:
 
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I've decided it's not the people that are getting hired's fault. It's the poisonous frat/sorority style senior management that we currently have. They're looking for more people like them subconsciously. It's no longer a meritocracy at Target, it's a popularity contest where the cutest cheerleader wins.
 
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Why are there 5 Sr. TL's. My store only has and needs 3. Are you guys super low volume? Super high volume? Super Target? Is there no ETLs in your building? That just sounds crazy to me but I don't know anything about your store. Are they all key carriers and do LOD shifts?
We are a C volume store. We have all the ETLs we are supposed to have which is 1 HL, 1 GE/SL, 1 HR, 1 LOG, and the STL.

I was told by my exec that we are supposed to have 5 Sr. TLs. And lo and behold, they were hired.
 

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We are a C volume store. We have all the ETLs we are supposed to have which is 1 HL, 1 GE/SL, 1 HR, 1 LOG, and the STL.

I was told by my exec that we are supposed to have 5 Sr. TLs. And lo and behold, they were hired.
Ah, no ETL-AP? So useful though :rolleyes:
 

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We are a C volume store. We have all the ETLs we are supposed to have which is 1 HL, 1 GE/SL, 1 HR, 1 LOG, and the STL.

I was told by my exec that we are supposed to have 5 Sr. TLs. And lo and behold, they were hired.
Ah, no ETL-AP? So useful though.
We're in a similar situation as far as headcount goes. No ETL-AP, but we do have an AP-TL. They have only had the position about a year and we had no AP-TL before that for the longest of times. If we weren't full on Sr.'s, they'd likely be a key carrier by now.
 
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#46
we are c and have 4 srtl. which is fine if they just cover lod shifts on weekends/nights 2 days a week. but they end up neglecting their salesfloor duties. and why do they need to be in the etl meeting for 4 hours and the tl meeting for another hour? waste of time.

but yet, on thursdays only 2 lods are there all day long. our etllog in the morning and a srtl at night. thursdays are now my favorite day of the week because its very peaceful.
 
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I always thought Sunday A.M. was kind of peaceful. Set the AD, complete the RIG. Flip endcaps if needed. Very peaceful.

That is until the DTL walks in and wants to walk your ad with you. LOL
 
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#48
i dont think our dtl ever walks on the weekends. ive never seen any higher ups in our store on the weekends in my time at target.
 
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Had my DTL, HRBP, Pharmacy leader and DAPTL show-up for our Black-Friday ad set. All I got to say, boy was that fun....... That was in my first month of taking over ad prep and ad set......
 
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