Archived Non-rehireable Status Questions

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TheNewMonarch

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Hey everyone, I was hoping to get some input and opinions on my "non-rehirable" status. I've read through some topics here but still didn't feel that I got a clear enough answer for my situation. My apologies for the lengthy post.

I last worked at Target over 6 years ago. I recently applied at a couple of my local stores just to pick up some extra part time work during the holidays. I know normally I'd be a shoe in because I'm hard worker and I have a lot of previous experience. I've worked in Hardlines, Grocery, Stock Room, In-Stock Team (if that's still a thing), helped with Planogram, and I was an Electronics Specialists at 2 stores (but from my understanding that's definitely no longer a thing). The problem is that apparently my file says I'm not rehirable. I was talking to the HR leader at one store and had a "mini phone interview" (that was going very well), though she stopped me when the issue of my rehire status came up.

6 years ago I was working at a store in another state. I was engaged to my now wife, who at the time was living in my home state. We were planning our wedding and making decisions about where we would end up living and well, she won that debate. We "decided" I would move back and take a job in my home state. When a job opportunity came up rather suddenly I gave short notice to my store leaders. I left on good terms and sat down and had a conversation with my team lead and HR before I left.

HR did tell me at the time that it would probably leave a mark on my record but after a couple years it wouldn't mean anything. Well here I am 6 years later and it seems to be hurting my chance of getting rehired. And before someone gives me grief and say I should just apply with another company, I like Target, I like the store, the company, and the environment and if I'm taking on some extra work for the season I would prefer to work there.

The HR ETL from my last store is out of office until tomorrow and I'm going to call there and see what I can do.

So a couple questions...

Does my previous store have the ability to change that status or give me a recommendation to somehow circumvent it?

If there's nothing I can do to gain the favor of my last store, how do I convince the HR at this new store to take me on? I know I've seen some people talk about being rehired even with a non-rehirable status.

Thanks in advance for any helpful input or opinions you guys can offer.
 
So rehireable status matters from store to store. Unfortunately your status was set with corporate HR when you left your last job and to my knowledge it cannot be changed. It sounds like you were let go under job abandonment. I have seen people who had an unsatisfactory 90 day probationary period get a second chance but generally job abandonment is the worst black mark you can get besides theft.

Certain stores will give you a second chance, the store I trained at the lady said she will give anyone an interview. For my fellow HRTM, it is a GTFO. His reasoning is if you screwed your last store how do we know you wont screw us?

My advice to you is to be very up front. Call them and explain your situation, what happened and how it wont happen again. There are no guarentees. They might be willing to give you an interview, they might say their policy is not to hire the unhireable. I hope you have some backup stores in place.

I say that bc I did get an interview for a girl who job abandoned at my store. She applied elsewhere and they rejected her. We were her third choice and I got her an interview. (She blew that unforunately) i am sure someone may give you a shot just be prepared it may not be your first choice store..
 
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Thank you @HRZone

Job Abondonement sounds harsh because I'm certain I worked the rest of my scheduled days, it just wasn't a full two weeks before I moved. I'm also certain it wasn't all that sudden because my managers knew about my situation and the possibility of me moving back to my home state, what with wedding plans and all.

It was certainly an odd time in my life but that was nearly 7 years ago. Since then I've become a father and have been working steadily in a career in mortgage banking. I wouldn't think about leaving a store in the lurch and not giving a proper notice. Also, the positions I've applied for are strictly seasonal which is all I'm looking for at this time.

Obviously I'll know a little more once I can talk to the HR ETL at my last store tomorrow, so we'll see.

Thank you again and if anyone else has any input please share.
 
Interesting, I will let others weigh in but you can ask the HRTM for the reason you are listed as non rehireable. She can tell you if it was job abandonment or another reason. This will help you to clarify with your previous store. I assume the ETL HR who was at your old store is gone now?

Good luck.
 
So is there a set of rules dictating under what circumstances someone gets keyed as non-rehire in MAX? (or whatever the HR system is these days). Or is it ultimately at the ETL-HR/STL's discretion?
 
I assume you were keyed in as non rehireable due to job abandonment because you didn't finish your two week notice. The HR TM or HR ETL can look at your application and tell you what was keyed in. We rehired a couple people who came from other stores and they were keyed in as non rehirable due to job abandonment and they did not last past their 90 days. They stopped showing up. Now if we get an application with a non rehirable status, we turn them down.
 
Yeah, when I called yesterday I was told HR is out of office until Wednesday. So tomorrow I'm going to call and hopefully get some clarity on how they marked my file.

Admittedly my memory of the whole situation is a little fuzzy, but I'm also confused as to why I was told that after a couple years this would be a non-issue. Neither my TL or HR said anything about Job Abandonment.

I'm also curious about @Formina Sage question about whether there's a standard practice or if it's pretty much up to the HR ETL...
 
TheNewMonarch said:
Yeah, when I called yesterday I was told HR is out of office until Wednesday. So tomorrow I'm going to call and hopefully get some clarity on how they marked my file.

Admittedly my memory of the whole situation is a little fuzzy, but I'm also confused as to why I was told that after a couple years this would be a non-issue. Neither my TL or HR said anything about Job Abandonment.

I'm also curious about @Formina Sage question about whether there's a standard practice or if it's pretty much up to the HR ETL...
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If you don't work your full two weeks you get keyed in as non rehirable due to job abandonment at our store. It can't hurt to call and talk to the HR ETL and explain what happened. You can be rehired with a non rehireable status if the HR ETL approves.
 
Despite letting your superiors know your situation, sounds to me that "blemish" made it's way to HQ and you might be blacklisted as non hire able... You stated it was 6 years ago and in those 6 years, don't be surprised if 1 if not ALL of your previous superiors left your store. With all new management in place of the old, you basically are starting from "scratch" and now building "trust" with new
 
It can be changed. We recently took someone back who was not rehireable. Sounds like not giving full two weeks notice flagged you.
 
They will not change you in the system from non rehireable however as others have stated it is up to a stores discretion to hire you back. Generally most ETL HRs will not touch a non rehire because if you do JA or have other issues it reflects badly on them for taking you on as a non rehire. Any store you try to get hired at that is considering taking the risk will most likely still call the previous store for a reference. I have rehired people before who were marked as non rehire even if it was JA if it was a special circumstance like emergency family issue.
 
Formina Sage said:
So is there a set of rules dictating under what circumstances someone gets keyed as non-rehire in MAX? (or whatever the HR system is these days). Or is it ultimately at the ETL-HR/STL's discretion?
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I have only seen two - unsatisfactory 90 days and job abandonment. It is usually job abandonment.

Our ETL HR has me do the terms but tells us what reason to put.
 
Yetive said:
It can be changed. We recently took someone back who was not rehireable. Sounds like not giving full two weeks notice flagged you.
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Eh you have to be careful when you say that. Because someone is hired doesnt mean they were changed in the system to rehireable. Some stores ignore the "non rehireable" and hire people who are listed as such. Stores have the right to do that it is usually at the ETL HRs discretion
 
HRZone said:
Eh you have to be careful when you say that. Because someone is hired doesnt mean they were changed in the system to rehireable. Some stores ignore the "non rehireable" and hire people who are listed as such. Stores have the right to do that it is usually at the ETL HRs discretion
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Fair enough, but my ETL HR said she called and had it changed. It also used to be you were not rehireable if you left while on a CA. Not sure if that is still true.
 
Thanks everyone for the feedback so far. I was initially told to call my previous store today to get in touch with HR. I called this morning but it turns out that HR ETL is closing, so I'll try again later today. I need to know what they have in my file to understand how this went down. Honestly no one said anything to me about job abandonment 6 years ago.

I certainly don't expect any of my old leadership to be there still. Someone stated earlier I'm pretty much starting from scratch and I'm inclined to agree, but I was told that my previous store is the only one that has full access to my file to help me understand their side of it.

Like I said earlier, I should be a shoe in and I'm not at all a cocky person, just confident in my work ethic and valuable Target experience. I'd like to think I'm not completely blocked out from being rehired. I'm going to give it an honest shot, as at this point it's more personal than simply needing some seasonal work. I'm very uncomfortable with the idea that I could be blacklisted from a company when in reality that is not at all reflective of my work ethic or character.

I'll keep you guys posted on how things progress today. Thanks again!
 
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Alright a little update. I called my last store and spoke with the ETL HR. Obviously she's not the same woman I worked with 6 years ago but she assured me she would look into my file and call me back by tomorrow.

On another note, the HR TM I talked to from my local store sent me an email today titled "Interview" and requested that I come in during their hiring event this weekend. I have a feeling this is a generic email sent out because I applied to their store and they have my application on file.

Either way I'm going to take the opportunity to talk to them in person, and that's regardless of the outcome from the conversation I expect to have tomorrow with my previous store.
 
If it makes you feel any better, I think the system will dump your file automatically after either 7 or 10 years. One of my old coworkers was fired by previous management, but got rehired at the same store because they had no information about her on file. I think she had a 15 year gap though. Even with that being said one of the team leaders remembered her and did nothing to stop her from getting rehired, despite leaving under bad conditions.

So maybe just wait a couple of more years then reapply.

But yeah, if you don't finish out your shifts two weeks after your notice is keyed, I think they will generally term you under "non rehireabe job abandonment". If HR has to go to the trouble of filling your shifts, then the only catharsis left for them is to key you in as NRH. It sounds petty, but that's human nature. It might not seem like its much trouble from the outside, but lots of team members are unwilling to change their schedule/pick up shifts after the schedule is finalized. If you had any closing shifts they had to fill, I can guarantee you that's the reason why.
 
@keynesian Yeah I can understand that.

I'm almost positive that I gave them like a week or so notice and worked the rest of my scheduled days... At the very least found people to cover any remaining shifts. Also I worked mostly mornings with the in stock team or days in either the backroom or on the salesfloor...and it was in February so it wasn't a busy time.

As far as waiting for my record to simply expire, I need the extra work now, even if it is just seasonal.
 
Called back to my previous store and spoke with the ETL HR again today. She said she looked into it but basically there's nothing she can share beyond the fact that I'm listed non-rehireable. She kept reiterating that she couldn't do anything to change that status and I kept reiterating that all I wanted were the details of what was in my file. Apparently she would need my team member ID number to have further access and of course I have no idea what that number is.

Soooo... I guess I'm just going to show up at the hiring event this weekend and wing it. Hopefully I get to interview with someone and just share my side of the story as I recall it.
 
here's one more little tip I can give you:

Look for a store hiring for a position titled "just in time flexible fulfillment" it won't be the work your used to, and it will be strictly seasonal work, but they'll hire pretty much anybody for it. I just can't guarantee you how good the hours will be.

good luck!
 
Well for a while there I wasn't sure it would work out...

I couldn't make it to the hiring event until later today and was a little bummed thinking I wouldn't get the chance to make a good impression. Well this afternoon I got a call from the ETL HR asking if I'd be in for an interview today. That right there made me feel pretty confident cause at least they wanted to meet with me.

So I showed up with a few resumes in hand and sat down with a softlines TL for the first interview. That went really well and we had some good conversation.

Second interview was with the ETL HR and right off the bat she was taking as if I already had the job. Our conversation went well and when I asked about my "non-rehireable" status she didn't seem to care much at all. She said it wasn't an issue of "job abandonment" and she understands that sometimes life happens and they weren't going to hold that against me.

When I applied they only had openings in Hardlines but based off my experience and our conversations it seems they found the means to put me in Electronics.

I'm pretty excited about that and relieved it all worked out. Happy to be back with the company even if it is only seasonal.

Thanks again everyone for you input and advice.
 
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