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Curious to know if some of you long timers got raises when they increased the start pay? Surely they bumped current TMs pay to above the $12 to be fair? Just something I’ve been wondering. 😊
 
I appreciate that you see how unfair it is, but that's retail and the free market. And while I hate that we didn't get an equivalent pay raise, I do support the free market, so fair play.

But "specialists" or whatever we're considered (Accessories & Apparel, Market, Beauty, and Electronics, I believe) make a bit more than base pay, so right now, $12.50
 
Sweet Pea said:
Curious to know if some of you long timers got raises when they increased the start pay? Surely they bumped current TMs pay to above the $12 to be fair? Just something I’ve been wondering. 😊
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Nope. Been here two years, I'm still at starting wage. I did get a raise when we were at $10/hr, but that went away with the $11/hr increase. Honestly just need to vent a second because I'm actually so sick of Target right now. I've underpaid and overworked, my department is put on the back burner, our district team leader and corporate Frozen Dairy head/manager, ETLs, and the low pay have set me off. I'm doing what other stores pay $14/hr+ to do.

Not to say I won't be at $14.50/hr soon(ish), which I doubt by the way, I'll get to that, but the benefits here SUCK. I work about 130 hours a month, not quite full time, but 32-36 hour weeks qualifies for full time benefits here. Throughout this year, I've only accrued 15.5 hours of PTO. No sick time, no vacation time, nothing. My girlfriend on the other hand has a 40 hour a week job for $14/hr at a nonprofit and has 75 hours of PTO.
The pay raise is great and all for new comers, but the atmosphere has been so toxic for veterans like qmosqueen, me, my Pfresh Assistants I've worked with for years now, and the others at my store.

I'm pretty much in full revolt. I decided today I wanted to use my PTO to call in and take a day off, whatever, right? I called in and the ETL says "Alright, I'll let them know, I guess."

Oh, boy, another guy who makes $70,000 a year snarking a worker who makes only starting wage after two years. A cashier I worked with back in my department while he helped out made me laugh. I asked him if he had any favorite ETLs and he says "ETLs just make me laugh. They're so fucking stupid."

No offense to the ETLs who do read here, I'm talking about my store's ETLs. I realize you guys are treated the same way we are but worse by upper management, and it's just an issue of hierarchy in an overworked society, but a lot of ETLs lack the humility in my store.

What's so funny is a year ago I use to parade around here about how great my ETLs and leadership was... and then all but one good ETL left. All of my favorite Sr. TLs, pushed out. All of my ETLs I actually liked? Quit. I actually really came to like our new ETL-GE replacement after the last bitch quit, and he quit in two months! He was just gone... and the ones I hate? All brand new ones. The new ETL-GE again after the last replacement is okay, she seems to have a pretty basic humble understanding. (I realize you get paid like shit, nothing ever works out, and I can't ask you to do much more unless you want to, sort of thing.)
 
Oops I never got to why I doubt we'll ever see the $15/hr. It's a goal Target set to reach, but it's nearly 2019, I figured we'd be at $13.00/hr this fall, but I haven't seen it. No one has. If they raise us next spring, that puts us on track for 2021 being the year of $15/hr... if we get there.

I can't see Target, a multi-billion corporation, willingly paying $15/hr to newcomers. Really it should be the veterans getting the pay increase while starting stays at $12/hr, which I think is fair... but putting the veterans and experienced TMs in line with everyone else is wrong. If it ain't wrong, it just feels wrong. No one is really surprised this is what it came to.

If we do ever reach $15/hr, our benefits are probably only going to get shittier.
 
I was with Target for 3 years from 2007-2010, left on good terms, and came back again in 2013. Currently a GSA. Also work POG, SFS, Hardlines, Price Accuracy, Backroom, and just about any area besides food when needed.

I’m at $12.08.
 
mathprofmatt said:
I was with Target for 3 years from 2007-2010, left on good terms, and came back again in 2013. Currently a GSA. Also work POG, SFS, Hardlines, Price Accuracy, Backroom, and just about any area besides food when needed.

I’m at $12.08.
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that's funny you're actually paid less than what a GSA is actually suppose to be paid. I mean it's not funny, but just ironic. :/
 
mathprofmatt said:
I was with Target for 3 years from 2007-2010, left on good terms, and came back again in 2013. Currently a GSA. Also work POG, SFS, Hardlines, Price Accuracy, Backroom, and just about any area besides food when needed.

I’m at $12.08.
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Omg that’s crazy. I’d ask for a raise.
 
Must be you haven't been at Spot for long? This is not how they do things. Experience and seniority are moot as far as they're concerned. I've been with Target for over 5 years and have received annual raises, most of them tiny. But now I make the same as someone just hired seasonally. And they wonder why morale stinks.
 
I started last summer as a GSA, at 10.50. They gave us the full dollar when minimum moved to 11, but when they 12 came during review season this year... and they acted like they did us a favor by moving us to $12 instead of the 11.50 we were currently making. So now I make the same as the 16 year old cashier that I’m doing 40000x more work than. When I asked HR about it I was told that my incentive to stay a GSA was my “guaranteed hours”. Now we are being told some seasonal cashiers (minors included) are making 12.50...! So glad the kids I have to keep from chatting all day are making more than I am. 🙄
 
Lane Jockey said:
I started last summer as a GSA, at 10.50. They gave us the full dollar when minimum moved to 11, but when they 12 came during review season this year... and they acted like they did us a favor by moving us to $12 instead of the 11.50 we were currently making. So now I make the same as the 16 year old cashier that I’m doing 40000x more work than. When I asked HR about it I was told that my incentive to stay a GSA was my “guaranteed hours”. Now we are being told some seasonal cashiers (minors included) are making 12.50...! So glad the kids I have to keep from chatting all day are making more than I am. 🙄
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This! A & A also makes .50 an hour more than the GSA’sGSTM’s. Irks me when I have guests who come to guest services because they can’t find an apparel item and no one to help them. I’m still waiting to see the young women in this department actively selling.
 
Frontlanegirl said:
This! A & A also makes .50 an hour more than the GSA’sGSTM’s. Irks me when I have guests who come to guest services because they can’t find an apparel item and no one to help them. I’m still waiting to see the young women in this department actively selling.
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I'm waiting for the youngs to actually learn where locations are in softlines. I can walk a guest over to them, show them a location on the zebra where something the guest wants is, and all I get is a blank stare. I can at least direct a guest to any location in hardlines. I want my .50.
 
Frontlanegirl said:
This! A & A also makes .50 an hour more than the GSA’sGSTM’s. Irks me when I have guests who come to guest services because they can’t find an apparel item and no one to help them. I’m still waiting to see the young women in this department actively selling.
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seasonaldude said:
I'm waiting for the youngs to actually learn where locations are in softlines. I can walk a guest over to them, show them a location on the zebra where something the guest wants is, and all I get is a blank stare. I can at least direct a guest to any location in hardlines. I want my .50.
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ASANTS. My softlines team knows their shit (though I'll be fair, some of our seasonals are ridiculous, I'll be glad when they leave).
 
Frontlanegirl said:
Those seasonals are making that extra .50 an hour.
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I'm not the one who hired them. If I'd been in charge of hiring, my store would have only hired seasonal cashiers and flow team. Everything else would have been supplemented by existing team members. Do you know how much shit I could get done if I wasn't going up for backup every 10 minutes?
 
Sweet Pea said:
Curious to know if some of you long timers got raises when they increased the start pay? Surely they bumped current TMs pay to above the $12 to be fair? Just something I’ve been wondering. 😊
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Lol. Nope. I haven't got an increase that wasn't my regular raise since 2010 because I always end up making more than starting pay.
 
Even though log teams always had a pay bump with the old grading system, I've been told we're now at the same paygrade as the new cashiers/sf while the E2E teams are making more than us. Our store still has us doing a lot of the E2E team tasks. We use power equipment, cover E2E work, do 3k+ units of sfs making all of those sales, but make the same as new cashiers/sf. And I'm also expected to be a captain.
 
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Sweet Pea said:
Curious to know if some of you long timers got raises when they increased the start pay? Surely they bumped current TMs pay to above the $12 to be fair? Just something I’ve been wondering. 😊
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Lol nope
I've been here for 12 years and I make $12.50 as Electronics + Mobile. The biggest slap in the face was when I got my biggest review raise ever (.48 iirc. ) Which brought me up to $12.21 just to lose it when our minimum went up a month later. Only still here because they're giving me hours.
 
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