Archived The great GSA pay debate

[Retail Girl]

Alright...most people here would agree that 50 cents above the cashiers for all the headaches of a GSA is simply laughable. I had a SrTL ask me earlier this week why in the world I would do it. Who the hell knows.

Earlier this summer, while my ETL was throwing the "leader in the building" term around at me, he mentioned, "and I assume you are compensated for it." To which I didn't say much...so I'm not sure he's aware of the pay scale, either.

Anyway, last night a couple of people here in chat said there was a Redwire out about GSA's going to $1.00 over base. Fabulous. Not enough, but a step in the right direction. Here's the problem. If that's true, that means that I am now 9 cents above someone starting as a brand new GSA...new to the store, can't make a decision on their own and the LODs surely couldn't leave alone to run the front end in peace. So I know corporate doesn't give a care.

I'm planning on going in a bit early so I can search on Redwire and see if this is true (anyone else able to confirm this?). If it is true, is it worth pointing out to my ETL? I know he can't fix the compensation issue, but I'd like to think I'm worth a bit more consideration than being treated as the dirt under the LOD's shoes.

I dunno. Thoughts?

 

[Hardlinesmaster]

so true, RG.

 

[Nauzhror]

I'm not sure if the redwire message was directly regarding to GSA pay, but I saw a message regarding change in base pay and restructuring of paygrades, my STL had commented on the redwire topic, asking ETL-HR to brief her and the HRTM on the changes. I also know when I was just recently made GSA that I received a $1 raise, but I am unsure if they are related, it's possible it was $1 at my store prior to any recent change(s).

 

[redeye58]

Some one at our store heard that SB baristas were supposed to get a small bump but it wouldn't affect me because I've been here so long & I'm capped.

 

[RedMan]

Don't tell our GSAs that. I don't know what anybody at my store makes, but rumor has it that GSAs only make $0.25 above base. For the record, I wouldn't hang the keys on my belt loop for a quarter. Don't even mention the rest of the stuff a GSA has to do.

 

[FrontEndFirecracker]

At my store, GSA's are started at least $1 over cashiers, but usually more. Before I became GSA, I was HL making over $10 an hour. I got GSA, was bumped to over $11 an hour. Yearly raise 4 months after promotion put me just over $12 an hour.

I still don't feel appropriately compensated for the amount of shit we deal with.

 

[Nauzhror]

At my store, GSA's are started at least $1 over cashiers, but usually more. Before I became GSA, I was HL making over $10 an hour. I got GSA, was bumped to over $11 an hour. Yearly raise 4 months after promotion put me just over $12 an hour.

I still don't feel appropriately compensated for the amount of shit we deal with.

Err, is that...California?

I started at $7.50 as a cashier, comp wage raise soon after to $7.75, yearly raise to $7.97, min wage rose to $8.15 then (from $7.40), so I rose to $8.15 then, a few weeks ago comp wage raise went to $8.50, then GSA bumped that to $9.50. I doubt I'll hit 9.75 even after the next raise in May, and surely not $10. I doubt I'll see any raise for more than a few months for several years because legislature was passed to raise min wage a good bit over the next few years, which will keep bumping my pay faster than any standard raise would, and such increases seem to cut into any merit-based raises, which I think is absolute bullshit, since it keeps tenured TM's and TL's stuck at the same payrate basically as their brand new colleagues even after having been in-role for years.

There's no way I'm equally efficient as a cashier to any of the seasonals we just hired, yet prior to a few days ago I made the same $ per hour as they all did.

 

[redandkhaki]

GSA in my store is 1.50 over base cashier pay.

 

[Retail Girl]

So, I hunted on Redwire, and couldn't find anything. I casually mentioned the lousy pay to the ETL-GE who immediately changed the subject.

The fact that it isn't even standardized across the board what paygrade it's in completely baffles me.

I'll be very glad when I'm able to leave Spot.

 

[Flabbergasted]

It has now been 3 or 4 weeks on the schedule with one of our front-end TMs getting nothing but GSA shifts without the raise or supervisor #s. I am seriously ticked that they are refusing to change the job code, GE claiming that she's just "testing the waters" and "we still have to interview first." Well then interview now and change the job code or be prepared for a hotline call.

 

[commiecorvus]

It has now been 3 or 4 weeks on the schedule with one of our front-end TMs getting nothing but GSA shifts without the raise or supervisor #s. I am seriously ticked that they are refusing to change the job code, GE claiming that she's just "testing the waters" and "we still have to interview first." Well then interview now and change the job code or be prepared for a hotline call.

How do people get up in morning and look in the mirror when they are pulling dreck like that?
Do they think for a minute that they would want that done to themselves?

 

[Nauzhror]

So, I hunted on Redwire, and couldn't find anything. I casually mentioned the lousy pay to the ETL-GE who immediately changed the subject.

The fact that it isn't even standardized across the board what paygrade it's in completely baffles me.

I'll be very glad when I'm able to leave Spot.

I believe the paygrades are the same, just the wage differences between the paygrades seems to be non-standardized.

 

[FrontEndFirecracker]

At my store, GSA's are started at least $1 over cashiers, but usually more. Before I became GSA, I was HL making over $10 an hour. I got GSA, was bumped to over $11 an hour. Yearly raise 4 months after promotion put me just over $12 an hour.

I still don't feel appropriately compensated for the amount of shit we deal with.

Err, is that...California?

I started at $7.50 as a cashier, comp wage raise soon after to $7.75, yearly raise to $7.97, min wage rose to $8.15 then (from $7.40), so I rose to $8.15 then, a few weeks ago comp wage raise went to $8.50, then GSA bumped that to $9.50. I doubt I'll hit 9.75 even after the next raise in May, and surely not $10. I doubt I'll see any raise for more than a few months for several years because legislature was passed to raise min wage a good bit over the next few years, which will keep bumping my pay faster than any standard raise would, and such increases seem to cut into any merit-based raises, which I think is absolute bullshit, since it keeps tenured TM's and TL's stuck at the same payrate basically as their brand new colleagues even after having been in-role for years.

There's no way I'm equally efficient as a cashier to any of the seasonals we just hired, yet prior to a few days ago I made the same $ per hour as they all did.

Florida.

 

[Top Dollar]

So, I called the Team Member Life Resources hotline the other night. Some of the conversation was kind of funny.

TMLR: What is your position at Target?

ME: I am a GSA.

TMLR: GSA? I'm not familiar with that term.

ME: <proceeds to describe my GSA role/duties>

TMLR: Okay, so I'm going to put you down as "management."

ME: Well, it's not really "management."

TMLR: It's not?

 

[Flabbergasted]

I have a sad update to our pathetic tale of the cashier-turned-GSA who is still on the cashier paygrade despite having a month of GSA shifts. She will be putting in her 2 weeks due to the ETL-GE refusing to change her jobcode after all this time working as a GSA. The STL also said he "wasn't comfortable" promoting until she raised her personal conversion score, which is BS because as a GSA you are barely on a register. I have asked her to call the hotline before her last day so this nonsense doesn't happen to anyone else ever again.

 

[EagleEye]

My jimmies are still rustled knowing that the sbux baristas are in the same paygrade as me (GSA).

 

[Nauzhror]

Bugged me more that Food Ave TM's made more than me when I was Service Desk Guru than it does that Sbux Baristas are same paygrade as me now.

 

[BigEyedPhish]

I love knowing that as a PA, the vendors I demand so much from are probably getting paid twice as much as me.

 

[redeye58]

Having put nearly 10 yrs in the front end - first as specialist, then as GSA - I'd gladly trade you a day behind my counter during morning rush when the food order has just arrived & they start pushing flats to our area.

 

[Nauzhror]

Not worked SB, but FA is a joke at my store, half the time they're hiding out of sight on their phone.

 

[Flabbergasted]

Well at least y'all are getting that extra fiddy cent. I am going on week three with no raise, no supervisor #s and upwards of 75% of weekly shifts as GSA.

 

[PinkZinnia]

@Forhyre how do you close with no numbers?

 

[Hardlinesmaster]

@Forhyre how do you close with no numbers?

He uses the speed id from an Lod.

 

[PinkZinnia]

Ahhh

 

[Sanzano]

I've had the GSA position held out in front of me like a golden carrot for over a year; did plenty of GSA shifts and coverage but some stores simply don't believe in promoting from within. I transferred stores, got the position in its entirety right away through the transfer process. But it is best to have your ETL-HRs blessing if you plan on trying to promote through transfer.