STL Watching TMs Via Camera

Kaitii

The face of true betrayal
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#1
So apparently my STL has been checking the cameras a lot lately in order to catch loafers. What are your thoughts on this? Honestly I think it's...a little weird to just be constantly watched like that. And I don't even know what she counts as "loafing." She's really chatty and talks up TLs ans ETLs all the time for a couple minutes so I s2g if that's all it takes to get written up (I was told a couple were already written up about it) I'm gonna be pissed off because it feels like she's placed a "No Fun at Work" sign.

I'm leaving for 2 weeks tomorrow so hopefully she would have given up by then lol
 
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Kaitii

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#9
Also does anyone know where it says an STL can't coach for non safety via camera and all that just in case
 
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#10
Also does anyone know where it says an STL can't coach for non safety via camera and all that just in case
I don't know the exact policy but I remember an incident with my old store's ETL-AP way back (like 2 years ago) using the cameras to catch employees doing things like texting or loafing and I actually witnessed him being told to knock it off by the STL. And then later heard from a GSTL that they cannot coach for things like that just seeing them on the camera. So it's definitely a policy.
 

ClearanceMaster

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#13
yeah they cant coach from camera, but if they see you doing it they can just as easily say that they saw you or someone said they saw you. so unless you can prove they saw you on camera only its kind of a hard thing to argue.
 

oath2order

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#15
Why defend loafers?
At first they came for the loafers and I did not defend them because I was not a loafer.

Then they came for the people not working at "optimal speed" and I did not defend them because I worked at "optimal speed".

Then they came for me and there was nobody to defend me.



I mean, I know that's over-dramatic, but it's a slippery slope. First it starts as "oh we're just catching the loafers" and then it moves to other things, and soon you basically have someone watching you on camera every second to watch for even the slightest slip-up.
 
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#17
Why defend loafers?
I wouldn't call myself a loafer by any stretch of the imagination. I get more work done than most of my fellow hardline team members. I love ass. But I also take time in between pushing the 7th cart of reshop that the closer last night was too lame to push to maybe chat coe a few minutes with a coworker, get to know people a bit. Networking for a job is important after all, and I feel on a basic level, it can't hurt to know how you're working with, after all, aren't we a team?

And yet, if someone was watching on camera, I can absolutely see me getting coached for a five minute conversation or a 30 second Pokemon Go break, while all the hard work I did around that moment gets ignored.

Defend the loafers, because anyone bored enough to look at security tapes
will be more than happy to find reasons to mark you for slacking off, regardless of how hard you work.
 

mrknownothing

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#19
I thought only AP was allowed to access the cameras. And doesn't the STL have more important things to do anyways? Like actually respond to TMs that need help?

Regardless, re: coaching from cameras...

Technically, leadership isn't supposed to coach TMs for behavior spotted on camera (unless it's something illegal, which is another story) unless they've witnessed said behavior themselves.

Scenario: Bob from AP is watching the cameras and sees sales floor TM Lisa texting when she should be zoning, so he tells TL Felicia. Felicia can't coach Lisa for texting based solely off the fact that Bob saw her on camera; however, since Bob has tipped off Felicia, she now knows that she needs to keep an eye on Lisa. When she catches Lisa texting, a coaching is now appropriate.

Maybe a dick move by Bob when he should be watching for theft and the like, but it's within the rules.
 
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