MEGATHREAD 2018-2019 Store Modernization Megathread

[OPINION] How do you feel about these changes?

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How do you all deal with the towering uboats during unload? They are designed for what 40 boxes max? You get a big truck and run out of the proper uboats. The execs and everyone is shitting themselves saying "how bad" the sort and stock is. Umm no we do not have enough equipment to accomodate a 2500 piece trailer. Dumbasses. Do not even get me started on the cluster fuck of transition they send.
 
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How do you all deal with the towering uboats during unload? They are designed for what 40 boxes max? You get a big truck and run out of the proper uboats. The execs and everyone is shitting themselves saying "how bad" the sort and stock is. Umm no we do not have enough equipment to accomodate a 2500 piece trailer. Dumbasses. Do not even get me started on the cluster fuck of transition they send.
Some of the truck unload team pushes. Take u-boat, replace it with empty one, push product, swap for one that now has product on it, etc, until the unload is done.
 

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How do you all deal with the towering uboats during unload? They are designed for what 40 boxes max? You get a big truck and run out of the proper uboats. The execs and everyone is shitting themselves saying "how bad" the sort and stock is. Umm no we do not have enough equipment to accomodate a 2500 piece trailer. Dumbasses. Do not even get me started on the cluster fuck of transition they send.
Like the other person said, you have a few TMs pushing uboats and swap them around as you empty them. That’s why the custom block papers are supposed to be removable
 

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Some of the truck unload team pushes. Take u-boat, replace it with empty one, push product, swap for one that now has product on it, etc, until the unload is done.
Doesn't work. We start our unload 2 hours before anyone arrives to push anything, and we don't have enough U-boats to get through those 2 hours without having to move to pallets or other vehicles. We could order more U-boats.. but there's no room for them. No room for the ones we fill, no room for the empty ones. This is with maxing each U-boat out with as much freight as we can. It just doesn't work.

In addition to that, we have no choice but to break the rule is that no U-boats can be on the floor unless someone is pushing them because we simply don't have enough room for all the full U-boats during the unload, or even after. It's a clusterfuck. Even when TMs arrive to push the U-boats, they only manage to bring them back just as we're done unloading the truck.

Tried getting TMs to come in earlier, but DTL and STL shot that down. We can no longer stage pallets off the truck on the salesfloor either, so we block the other bay with them and develop a long line of angry vendors. Our trucks are too large and our unload area is too small to work with this process. We only have 2 bays for unload, and it's impossible to keep the 2nd clear while we're unloading the first. Our STL does sympathize with us, but she has no choice but to comply with the DTL's orders. ETL does what she can, which helps us stay afloat, but this new process is clearly not a "one size fits all" and we can't make changes to suit our store layout/size/freight/workforce.
 

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Doesn't work. We start our unload 2 hours before anyone arrives to push anything, and we don't have enough U-boats to get through those 2 hours without having to move to pallets or other vehicles. We could order more U-boats.. but there's no room for them. No room for the ones we fill, no room for the empty ones. This is with maxing each U-boat out with as much freight as we can. It just doesn't work.

In addition to that, we have no choice but to break the rule is that no U-boats can be on the floor unless someone is pushing them because we simply don't have enough room for all the full U-boats during the unload, or even after. It's a clusterfuck. Even when TMs arrive to push the U-boats, they only manage to bring them back just as we're done unloading the truck.

Tried getting TMs to come in earlier, but DTL and STL shot that down. We can no longer stage pallets off the truck on the salesfloor either, so we block the other bay with them and develop a long line of angry vendors. Our trucks are too large and our unload area is too small to work with this process. We only have 2 bays for unload, and it's impossible to keep the 2nd clear while we're unloading the first. Our STL does sympathize with us, but she has no choice but to comply with the DTL's orders. ETL does what she can, which helps us stay afloat, but this new process is clearly not a "one size fits all" -- yet we can't make changes to suit our store layout/size/freight/workforce.
Then you’re unloading too fast. Break of of theirs TMs off to push? Even out your unload to push ratio. It’s not a broken system it’s a brokenprocess at your store. Not every issue has an obvious solution, but u loading too fast is a pretty easy one.
 

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Then you’re unloading too fast. Break of of theirs TMs off to push? Even out your unload to push ratio. It’s not a broken system it’s a brokenprocess at your store. Not every issue has an obvious solution, but u loading too fast is a pretty easy one.
We only have 5 TMs on the unload -- 1 thrower, 1 pusher/SS, and 3 SS. It would be 6 if you count A&A breakout. We tried extending unload, but we ended up rolling most of the freight as those on the line had to leave 30 mins after the unload was done -- not enough time to push their areas. No hours to add anyone else or extend shifts.

I'm more inclined to believe the process itself is broken. Almost everyone on here remarks that they're having issues coming clean and filling shelves, which was never a problem with the old process. The stores that can make it work seem to be the exception, not the norm.
 
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Some of the truck unload team pushes. Take u-boat, replace it with empty one, push product, swap for one that now has product on it, etc, until the unload is done.
Correct, if you are lucky enough to have this. Lately my TL has had to be part of the whole pushing the line aspect because like today we only have 4 sorters scheduled. My STL considers them to be part of the actual sort because payroll is so shit. So when the next group of people come in a half hour after the beginning of the sort you need to take one if not two to get the line going and actually be efficient, or spend your whole shift sorting and work one uboat before you are cut. Then people bitch that the sort looks like shit and that the TL needs to be doing more to make sure the sort is precise. Then bitch that trailers aren't getting finished because no pp1 has been touched until the truck is unloaded because you had to rob Peter to pay Paul. Uboats are on the sales floor because there is no room by the line, trash, the list goes on and on....
 

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What’s the point of being a GSA anymore then? I heard of this being a possibility right before I left and both of our GSAs told HR they wanted to step down to cashier because of it
Hours? At my store the GSAs are scheduled to work a lot more than any cashiers. The extra responsibility isn't worth it because I imagine for most GSAs the whole "it's a good stepping stone to a TL position" thing is never going to result in a promotion.
 
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What’s the point of being a GSA anymore then? I heard of this being a possibility right before I left and both of our GSAs told HR they wanted to step down to cashier because of it
I think that could be said of any role away from cashier, though. Imagine going from cashier to Plano or flow where the physical labor and pressure is more intense. Yet they all make the same as a cashier. Cashier to gsa is definitely an increase in responsibility but puts them more in line with every other role in the store so none of us make enough!!
 
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Hours? At my store the GSAs are scheduled to work a lot more than any cashiers. The extra responsibility isn't worth it because I imagine for most GSAs the whole "it's a good stepping stone to a TL position" thing is never going to result in a promotion.
Wouldn’t be surprising. I remember them saying HR tried to justify it as them “gaining extra experience” but they both didn’t want to move up from GSA in the first place so they didn’t really see any benefit from it. I also remember hearing “all cashiers will end up being GSA equivalent” when talking modernization but they never had any time for training when there were 2 cashiers up front at a time
 
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I think that could be said of any role away from cashier, though. Imagine going from cashier to Plano or flow where the physical labor and pressure is more intense. Yet they all make the same as a cashier. Cashier to gsa is definitely an increase in responsibility but puts them more in line with every other role in the store so none of us make enough!!
GSAs are expected to act as “TLs” over the front end and it’s team members though, at least at the store I was at, not to mention closing registers/counting money. To me at least that’s more responsibility than being in Plano/sales floor/etc. (not saying those jobs are easy)
 
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Transition is the hardest thing to deal with. I take a look at unload report prior to unload. determine my plan of attack. The answer may be a pallet that gets wrapped and put up until it's set. That's the ONLY time I use a pallet because pallets are not your friend with this process.
 
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When we were hit w double after double after double we got to the point were you stop the unload push and return to unload. It's not ideal but who would have thought we could knock out 4800 in a day! The process does work. The mind set has to be right. It isn't just "flow's" job any more everybody plays. In my store logistics has a great relationship with hardlines TLs. It's a must have partnership! Scheduling has to be right as well.
 
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My HR told my coworker that I will be considered tech/electronics lead & there will be a beauty lead. Both of us also get raises, but another LOD said otherwise.
There will be elevated position in Food, Home, Beauty and Electronics. They will have more responsibility then a team member but not as much as a lead. They will paid more then a team member. There is anothe pay lift his summer and these changes will be reflected then.

For the GSA position all cashiers should be at the level of a GSA. If not they shouldn’t be at Target. Post rollout the GSA will only be by themselves the first 3 hours and the last 3 hours of the day max. All other times the ETL and/or TL will be there.
 
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GSAs are expected to act as “TLs” over the front end and it’s team members though, at least at the store I was at, not to mention closing registers/counting money. To me at least that’s more responsibility than being in Plano/sales floor/etc. (not saying those jobs are easy)
Oh for sure, and I agree they work very hard and the increase in responsibility deserves better pay. And I am plano/pricing so I might take it too personally. ;)

Now, in true Target fashion they don't pay HRTMs more and they are responsible for payroll, the schedule and so much more. They know so much about everything and are expected to keep it confidential.

All that to say how Target pays doesn't make a lot of sense. :rolleyes:
 
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When we were hit w double after double after double we got to the point were you stop the unload push and return to unload. It's not ideal but who would have thought we could knock out 4800 in a day! The process does work. The mind set has to be right. It isn't just "flow's" job any more everybody plays. In my store logistics has a great relationship with hardlines TLs. It's a must have partnership! Scheduling has to be right as well.
Your store must be well staffed...we have to have people pushing while the unload is going on or we'd never get things started right.

I just wish we didn't have to go through a narrow back aisle to get to the cardboard baler while it was going on.
 
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Post rollout the GSA will only be by themselves the first 3 hours and the last 3 hours of the day max. All other times the ETL and/or TL will be there.
In theory, that's how it's supposed to be. In practice, I've been in two pilot stores and have yet to see this come to fruition most of the time. The GSA turnover rate is too high.
 
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